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Re: [CQ-Contest] Proposed rule changes

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Proposed rule changes
From: "Dennis McAlpine" <dbmcalpine@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 00:17:45 -0400
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Now there is a conflict between the rules.  On the air, the station sent
"V44HH".  Under scenario 1, I copied it as V44HS but it is on my recording
as "V44HH".  I should change it to what was sent but I can't because the QSO
is completed.  Now, scenario 2, the station sent "V44HH"; I copied it as
"V44HH" but hit "J" key rather than the "H" key so I typed "V44HJ"  Clearly
it is  a typo and I should change it to match what was sent and what I
copied but, again, I cannot because the QSO is over.  

How did I realize the call should be "V44HH"?  I worked him on other bands
and realized I copied it wrong.  Can I change it during the contest?  How
about after it is over?  

Scenario 2, I read in NG3K list that V44HH was going to be on so I knew I
miscopied/misspelled the call.   If I read the list before the QSO is over,
I can change it, right?  How about after I hit enter but before the end of
the contest?  How about after the contest? 

If SCP is banned, how about QRZ DX or NG3K lists published before the
contest? 

I haven't done the work but how many times does an assisted station outscore
an unassisted one, assuming same caliber of op, station, etc.?  My guess is
that the highest scores are compiled by unassisted stations because they run
more and pick up mults as they go or on a second radio. SO let's just
eliminate single op, unassisted and let everyone do what they want?  This
just means fewer categories and less awards so the sponsor should be happy.
It eliminates all this checking for using aids, SCP, lists, etc.  

73,

Dennis, K2SX

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Steve London
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 3:52 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Proposed rule changes


On 05/22/2015 11:04 AM, Dennis McAlpine wrote:

> 3)       Changing of log after a QSO is completed - I fear this
restriction
> is overkill.  To require a recording of the contest but then saying you
> can't use it to correct a log seems a bit ridiculous.  This assumes that
> someone                 (certainly not me) is devoted enough to go back
and
> listen to the whole log just to pick up a few changes.  But, this is an
> extreme case.  What about realizing that the guy who sent you "V44HS"
meant
> to send "V44HH" but you don't pick up the error until you have worked
V44HH,
> not V44HS, on three other bands.  Is it cheating to make that change
"after
> the QSO is completed"?  What about the fat fingered typo that you don't
see
> until you print out a list of QSOs and see that V44HHH is really V44HH?
> What about the case where the op on the mult rig yells out "That was
V44HH,
> not V44HS" but you have just hit Enter?  How much log massaging can one do
> in the time allowed being the end of the contest and log submission?
Don't
> we allow the use of SuperCheckPartial before the QSO is completed?  What
if
> one's PC is slow and you don't get the answer until after hitting enter?
> Why not just prohibit "extensive" log editing and leave the definition up
to
> the committee?

Rule IX, 10. would not allow you to change that V44HS QSO to V44HH 
later. This is not a new rule.

"Call signs logged must be the same as those exchanged over the air by 
the entrants during the QSO."

73,
Steve, N2IC


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