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From: K5KG Email via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 12:17:54 -0600
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Mike, you pose an interesting question - hilltop or oceanfront.  It depends on 
so many things, of course.  Not the least of which is what will the xyl allow, 
hi.  However, that aside, verticals on a beach can be killers, so I'd vote for 
that is a strong possibility.

73, Georgr, K5KG

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>   1. Contest QTH, hilltop or seaside? (Mike & Coreen Smith VE9AA)
>   2. Re: Contest QTH, hilltop or seaside? (Barry)
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> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 09:53:40 -0400
> From: "Mike & Coreen Smith VE9AA" <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
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> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest QTH, hilltop or seaside?
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> If you had to choose between a 600' hilltop or an oceanfront QTH in VE9, VE1
> which would it be?-----6m thru 160m.
> 
> 
> 
> Sure, 600' doesn't sound like a lot, but most of the land around these parts
> is from 30'-300' ASL. Lets say the ground is very poor and rocky &
> undulating.
> 
> 
> 
> Now to the oceanfront QTH.  These are harder to find. I mean the *ultimate*
> reasonably priced ones are w/o a thick wallet
> 
> but perhaps something in southern VE1 or VE9 which is a bit of a point of
> land giving 180-220* of water with fair but maybe not perfect views
> 
> to EU/AF and the USA & SA.JA would be blocked as would all northern paths.
> At least 3-10* horizon and all over land in any case.
> 
> What about less of an "over the water shot" where you could only choose one
> primary direction. Would you still do it? Choose EU over all else?
> 
> NA perhaps?....size is likely 2-5acres..what about QRM to neighbours?
> 
> 
> 
> Antennas would be very simple (no 100' towers in either case)
> 
> 
> 
> Perhaps 40'masts with K1WA/K8UR (4) sloping dipole arrays on all bands
> 10-160.  No stacks, maybe not even any short towers. Maybe just HF9V
> verticals.
> 
> 
> 
> So, strictly for contesting which would it be? Oceanfront or
> "hilltop"..remember-simple antennas only.
> 
> 
> 
> I await the comments.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike VE9AA
> 
> 
> 
> Mike, Coreen & Corey
> 
> Keswick Ridge, NB
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2015 08:08:14 -0700
> From: Barry <w2up@comcast.net>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest QTH, hilltop or seaside?
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> Given the constraint of simple antennas, no big towers, I'd go with the 
> hilltop (and carefully model with HFTA - too high an effective height is 
> bad, too).
> Barry W2UP
> 
>> On 1/1/2015 06:53, Mike & Coreen Smith VE9AA wrote:
>> If you had to choose between a 600' hilltop or an oceanfront QTH in VE9, VE1
>> which would it be?-----6m thru 160m.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sure, 600' doesn't sound like a lot, but most of the land around these parts
>> is from 30'-300' ASL. Lets say the ground is very poor and rocky &
>> undulating.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Now to the oceanfront QTH.  These are harder to find. I mean the *ultimate*
>> reasonably priced ones are w/o a thick wallet
>> 
>> but perhaps something in southern VE1 or VE9 which is a bit of a point of
>> land giving 180-220* of water with fair but maybe not perfect views
>> 
>> to EU/AF and the USA & SA.JA would be blocked as would all northern paths.
>> At least 3-10* horizon and all over land in any case.
>> 
>> What about less of an "over the water shot" where you could only choose one
>> primary direction. Would you still do it? Choose EU over all else?
>> 
>> NA perhaps?....size is likely 2-5acres..what about QRM to neighbours?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Antennas would be very simple (no 100' towers in either case)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Perhaps 40'masts with K1WA/K8UR (4) sloping dipole arrays on all bands
>> 10-160.  No stacks, maybe not even any short towers. Maybe just HF9V
>> verticals.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So, strictly for contesting which would it be? Oceanfront or
>> "hilltop"..remember-simple antennas only.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I await the comments.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mike VE9AA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>> 
>> Keswick Ridge, NB
>> 
>> 
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