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Re: [CQ-Contest] Why?

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why?
From: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 10:07:08 -0600 (CST)
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Ah, yes.  Pile-up management.
 
I did that at K2M/W3WH back in July.  Don't know how good I was at it, but it 
seemed to work out pretty well.  Could get 3 or 4 or even as many as 8 stations 
between the horde descending, which made things go faster.  
 
But it takes practice.  I know the guy who was acting as my logger had trouble 
pulling the calls out in the beginning... after a couple of hours, though, he 
figured out how to do it.
 
73


On 11/27/13, Zack Widup wrote:

There may be another scenario in the exchange outlined below. The
running station may write several callsigns down after he says "QRZ?".
Then, after working one, he may call the next on his little list. I've
known people who were very good at this!

73, Zack W9SZ


On 11/26/13, Larry <lknain@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> I suspect people do it because it can work.
>
> I have heard DX stations lecture the pile about not calling while working
> someone. So then a QSO ends "LU5DX TU W7AAA 599.." which means the DX
> station was copying other calls. Thus, one could conclude that I should call
>
> during the QSO so the DX station will hear my call and call me next. But the
>
> other stations listening often figure out the scheme and call too. Chaos. Of
>
> course, if it was "LU5DX TU YU5DX 599..." I can understand in that you both
>
> have very similar calls. It is not usually that close.
>
> I don't think I have heard as belligerent case as your DL8 over the DK5.
> Many stations will easily cave and work the DL8 and the poor DK5 may not get
>
> worked after all. Once working the DL8 after having called the DK5 then it
> can degenerate into a calling mess. (After all, how can you not hear me? I
> am 599 and clear in my headphones!) It can be hard sticking to what you
> call because it can kill your rate but there are ops that do it (I forget
> who but there were at least a couple heard this past weekend - a 5H and 5R I
>
> think). Trying to regroup if I heard DK5 and it wasn't actually DK5 can be
> interesting because that can open up the calling again.
>
> 73, Larry W6NWS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin , LU5DX
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 11:53 AM
> To: Ron Notarius W3WN
> Cc: CQ-Contest
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why?
>
> Super weird things happened. Compulsive calling is spreading like a
> decease!
> But not only that. There is now bullying calling.
>
> In the middle of an unruly pile up some DK5 called in. I copied his full
> call at once and came back to him with ENNA2.
> There was this other DL8 also calling and he simply continued to call after
> I came back to the DK5.
> He was so strong I was not able to copy the exchange being sent by the DK5.
> No ony that. The DL8 said I'm not DK5... I'm DL8.....
> So no way out but to stop the pile and asked the DL8 why he was that LID!!
> And he insisted I'm not DK5... And I said. I know you are not, I'm working
> someone else and I'm not working you for sure, so please QSY.
> Really bad operating manners were mostly shown by countries from certain
> countries, but now, it's pandemic!
> Just as in 2012. I had to wait long on big egos to ID (some of them
> repeating their techniques from last year).
>
> Anyways lots of fun as usual.
>
> I wonder if the WWROF will take a more proactive approach on all these
> topics.
>
> Best 73.
>
> Martin, LU5DX
> Op at CE3CT this past WWCW.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN
> <wn3vaw@verizon.net>wrote:
>
>> And of course, we all remember a well know US amateur working in Kuwait,
>> who was known to answer partial calls (and other liddish behavior) with
>> "you're in the log" instead of a signal report.
>>
>> So, someone who called (and called and called ) "FOUR LIMA) and sent a
>> card to that station's manager as "W4LID" would be told... he's not in
>> the
>> log. The log showed '4L' but not 'W4LID'
>>
>> (apologies to the real W4LID, if any, I simply used that call as an
>> example)
>>
>> 73
>>
>> On 11/25/13, Milt -- N5IA wrote:
>>
>> Been there; done that. During the CQ 160 SSB 'test I operated as VP6DX
>> from
>> Ducie Atoll in February of 2008 there were two prominent "Big Guns" who
>> never made it in the log because of their inability to follow
>> instructions
>> and kept calling, calling, calling while I was trying to get another call
>> sign correct. This went on for HOURS.
>>
>> Sad, but true.
>>
>> Mis dos centavos,
>>
>> de Milt, N5IA
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joe
>> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 7:53 AM
>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why?
>>
>> .... CUT ....
>>
>> If i ever had the chance to be at the other end, I'd make a
>> list of lid's like this, and make sure they never get worked.
>>
>> But Just my own opinion.
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>>
>>
>>
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