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Re: [CQ-Contest] NILs hurt

To: "john@kk9a.com" <john@kk9a.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NILs hurt
From: <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 20:52:21 -0500
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Surely, if there's been a good-faith effort to get the Q, leave it in the log. 

But if you know the Q is not complete, and your best efforts to complete it 
fail, by getting a fill or correcting his error, then there is no Q to remove. 
It didn't exist. 



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 3, 2013, at 20:48, john@kk9a.com wrote:

> I think it is a very poor practice to receive a report, send your report and 
> then removed the station from your log unless you have a good reason to 
> believe that the station did not log you.  There should be something in the 
> rules prohibiting this practice.  Most stations will ask you to repeat the 
> report and work hard to copy it correctly before moving on to the next 
> station.  If the station just sends his callsign, QRZ,  dit dit, etc, that 
> may be his way of acknowledging the contact and moving on to the next 
> caller.  Listen to the operator's operating style before calling.
> 
> John KK9A / P40A
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <KB3LIX@comcast.net>
> To: <john@kk9a.com>; "Contest, CQ" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 19:59
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NILs hurt
> 
> 
> I consider an acknowledgement to be a:
> 
> TU
> OK
> GL
> Got it
> 
> Something along those lines. CERTAINLY nothing fancy,
> just a reply that they got the exchange. Frankly, I do NOT want
> them to repeat MY exchange, that wastes too much time, mine and theirs.
> 
> Many times I will try to ask IF they got the exchange, and most if not
> all times they just keep slugging away.
> 
> Understand, I am not a biggie.
> 100w, a 4BTV & a homemade 130' doublet, so I do not
> have a "big mouth" and when I ask for a confirmation, I am often
> drowned out by the cacophony of other callers.
> 
> I have lost quite a few multipliers due to my impatience or
> stubbornness or whatever it is and that HURTS, but I cannot in good 
> consience
> count Q's that I do not consider complete.
> 
> 
> bill   73   KB3LIX
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: john@kk9a.com
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc: KB3LIX@comcast.net
> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 12:04:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NILs hurt
> 
> What do you consider an acknowledgement?  Many stations, including myself,
> running at a high rate, just give a quick TU, thanks or just say their
> callsign looking for the next contact. I never repeat your exchange. If I
> did not copy it I would ask for a repeat.
> 
> John P40A
> 
> 
> To:"Contest, CQ" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject:[CQ-Contest] Fwd: NILs hurt
> From:KB3LIX@comcast.net
> Date:Sun, 1 Sep 2013 03:53:16 +0000 (UTC)
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> 
> If I do not get a solid acknowledgement from another station in a contest,
> I DELETE the ENTRY in my logging program.
> Of course, I am NOT a big time contester, just a small fish,
> but I figure if they are in too much of a rush to skip the confirmation,
> they DESERVE the NIL...Not me.
> 
> I am sure most will say I am FOS, but too bad.
> That is my way of doing things.
> 
> bill   KB3LIX
> 
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