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Re: [CQ-Contest] My RED CARD - IT9GSF

To: Toivo Hallikivi <toivo.hallikivi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] My RED CARD - IT9GSF
From: I4UFH <i4ufh@libero.it>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:16:38 +0200
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Hi Guys,

This is a good starting point. Same question was raised to the CC Director, and 
the answer
is in the rules, the rule is very clear.  The RC/YC will apply to all 
operators. They do this because
it is impossible for them to know who violated the rules.  They also want all 
of the team members
to be motivated to make everyone obey the rules.  
It is too easy to point the finger at one person and then the others do not 
have to do anything.

Obviously I admit that this point of view is clear, no one can proof the 
violation, otherwise the
owner of the station or who send the log, MUST declare that all the Penalties 
should be applied
only to him, but for now rules did not accept this statement.

Other question was rised to CC regarding what happen if the MultiOp, guest 
operators of a RC station, 
the follow year, where they are not allowed to be eligible for an award, join 
another MultiOp station, and this last
one is eligible for an Award, what happen ? Does these RC ops, will impact  the 
Award eligibility ?

Answer was that " rules doesn't say The interpretation in the past is that yes, 
it will impact any station where
the RC operator goes the next year", and that may be a change in 2013 rules ...

Obviously if these ops impact  the Award eligibility , that can't be active 
during the Contest, but
rules didn't forbids to participate so this point need to be cleared ….

More transparency, and clarity is a good goal to target, the clear change of 
direction from old and new
CC management was a giant step  into a new "social community" world and more 
clarity is strong needed.

73 de Fabio I4UFH

 



Il giorno 10/apr/2013, alle ore 14:13, Toivo Hallikivi 
<toivo.hallikivi@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Hello,
> 
> Without referring to any of the particular cases mentioned in this
> discussion I must say I'm a little concerned about the collective punishment
> aspect of the CQWW and CQWPX rules about the Red Card. From rule XIII of
> both CQWW and CQWPX:
> "If the entrant receiving a Red card is in a multi-operator category, all
> listed operators are so affected."
> Is this really fair? If an operator joins a big multi-op team to operate for
> a certain period of time and later the team leader or whoever submitting the
> log decides to alter the log the way that results in a red card then what
> has that particular operator done wrong to deserve the red card? 
> 
> Or the other way around - in an imaginary situation of  a big multi-op crew
> one operator decides to unplug the PTT inhibit wire to work that rare DX
> that he cannot get because the PTT lock-out system keeps getting in the way
> and as a result there are two signals on the same band. What are his or hers
> 20 team members guilty of for receiving the card?
> 
> Have you ever seen the whole soccer team being chased off the field and
> banned from the next 3 games when one player has received a red card for an
> unsportsmanlike tackle?
> 
> 73, Toivo, ES2RR
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