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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Survey - One Soab category !

To: "IK1HJS - GMAIL" <ik1hjs@gmail.com>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Survey - One Soab category !
From: "Jim Jordan" <k4qpl@nc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:38:11 -0400
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Carlo,

First of all, you've busted my call. Must have been using skimmer. HI

My point is that it doesn't matter if you really do have a survey that is accurate down to two decimal points of a percent. I have entered contests in both categories. I like to have a choice and there is obviously a substantial number who feel the same. The percentage is irrelevant.
Does it harm you to have a separate class of single-operators who choose not 
to use assistance?
If you are going to always use assistance, then you can disregard the 
non-assisted contestants. Does that harm you? It would seem you would have 
better competition since you would know that you are winning on a level 
playing field.
Let's be inclusive and show tolerance for others, whether they are in the 
majority or a minority. A truly good nation, society or organization is one 
which works for the good of all, promotes diversity and makes room for QRP 
among 5KW rock crushers.
73,

Jim, K4QPL


----- Original Message ----- From: "IK1HJS - GMAIL" <ik1hjs@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 4:05 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Survey - One Soab category !


Answering to Jim (K4PQL):
With my maximum respect :sorry but no. It is absolutely not very clear that there is no consensus.
What you are reading on this reflector is just the top of an iceberg.
How do you know what contesters think ? You just see what some of answering contesters are publishing on this reflector: nothing to do with what contesters think. For example I think that on this reflector most "one soab category" contesters are not writing. By my side, the only nearestanswer to true is the Wpx survey that Randy made a few years ago and before (http://www.cqwpx.com/blog/?p=92) . The trend was from 35 (first survey) to 47,35% (second survey) of answering contesters that wants one category for soab (that was for wpx not cqww).
And that is only a portion  of participant in contests.
I don't know what will be the criterium of decision that Committee will have to decide (it's up to them of course), but I think that contesters opinion is just one of a lot of issues that have to be kept in account. I will say my opinion but I will not pretend to know results before publishing of the survey.
Just one category for soab ! That's the way.

73 de Carlo IK1HJS



Il 19/03/2013 23.46, Jim Jordan, K4QPL ha scritto:
This thread has been going on for weeks now. The comments have been good, bad and ugly. They have been thoughtful and sarcastic, polite and rude, positive and negative. However, the one thing that is very clear is that there is no consensus, and even more clearly, no mandate, to change the rules.
Is whatever perceived benefit in merging the assisted and non-assisted 
classes worth the divisiveness, the hard feelings, and the very likely 
decrease in participation?
Has this issue become so large that it can only be resolved as a 
"win-lose" decision?
Can we not get out of our generation gaps, our fear of the occasional 
cheater, the innovation vs. tradition arguments, etc.?
Are non-scientific surveys indicative of true feelings, or even accurate 
indicators of preferences?
Is a 51-49%, or even a 75-25% "win" (either way) of any real value to the 
contesting and the larger ham radio community where camaraderie, respect 
for others and honor have long been the principles we believe in? Is "The 
Old Man" not turning in his grave?
Is making such a radical change a necessity for the survival of 
contesting as we know it?
Regardless of personal preferences, I hope that I speak for the majority 
of contesters who will agree that we need to promptly resolve this issue 
and bring this discussion and the resulting divisiveness to an end before 
further damage results.
Personally, I don't want to hear the results from this "survey" 
regardless of its accuracy or lack thereof. Using it to back a "position" 
will just bring more bickering and divisiveness. Much preferable would be 
a simple statement NOW from the contest organizers that they have 
listened, surveyed, considered the matter and have come to the conclusion 
that notwithstanding any technical benefits that might result from 
change, the idea of merging assisted and non-assisted classes has been 
deferred indefinitely.
This thread can then be closed, hopefully without either crowing or sour 
grapes posts from either group. Maybe then we can save a few electrons, 
avoid "reflector overload" (resulting in frequent use of the "delete" 
button) and hear from members who have positive contributions to this 
great hobby.
73,

Jim, K4QPL


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