Yeah, arguable, but shortening it to 12 hours would be THE drastic
rules change, no? We're trying to do a rules change that doesn't
change anything except the activity level on Sunday.
73, Guy.
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Steve Sacco <nn4x@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps the problem is that Sweeps is too long?
>
> 73,
> Steve
> NN4X
>
> Guy Olinger K2AV <olinger@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> I'm with Pete.
>
> Someone commented that allowing stations to switch to a second call
> sign would be "gaming the system".
>
> First of all, for a serious high-score-seeking single op, all the
> marbles in one log will always have a higher score than EITHER of two
> logs splitting an operator's logs unless the op operates the max 24
> hours on one log and six on the other. But the max score attempt on
> the 24 hour log STILL has to CQ and SO2R S&P all Sunday to keep the
> main score on the most "productive" hours. He'd have to keep up with
> the other SS zealots who are gritting their teeth, grinding out SO2R,
> and listening to an audio book or watching recorded comedy channel on
> TV at the same time to avoid death by terminal boredom.
>
> Practically speaking, looking for FUN, one has to give up on winning
> anything to operate split into two logs. Nobody is proposing ADDING
> the two logs for an operator's single listed score. At least, I'm
> not. Scores would be listed by the used call signs, and the split
> logs are listed SEPARATELY in the listings. The only place they would
> add up is in club scores.
>
> IF everyone in PVRC did split logs, the change in the contest would be
> 250-300 new calls on Sunday afternoon. That would be about four hours
> of new stations working 60 plus an hour. If NCCC did it too, it's now
> 8 hours of new calls at 60+/hr.
>
> If anyone who wanted to just maximize ***FUN*** (perish the thought)
> did that, Sunday might actually be busy.
>
> Please note that how you get a high score, rules, the exchange, yada,
> yada, do NOT change anywhere, and what you have to do to get the high
> score in any category is STILL THE SAME.
>
> The split logs would only be added together in club scores. And
> please note, that with some planning and travel during the contest,
> that is possible and LEGAL now, brought to us in bulk by the clever
> fellows at NCCC. We're just asking to mainstream that.
>
> And getting on and only working one's club members has ALWAYS been
> legal. That's a complete straw man argument. Tell me you've never
> heard this in a pre-SS club meeting: "AT LEAST get on long enough to
> work as many club members as you can find."
>
> What one needs to remember here, for any serious SS operator, is that
> Sunday afternoon/evening boredom is the 1000 pound gorilla in all
> things SS, with nothing in second place, or third place, or fourth
> place, or... You've heard this in contest clubs: "If you're just
> going to do five hours, PLEASE get on Sunday afternoon. Please,
> please."
>
> Saturation kills SS as soon as the early Sunday morning 75 meter crowd
> has been worked out and you figure out that most of the high-band east
> coast-west coast possibilities were either worked at the start of the
> contest, or on 40 meters at night. After that it's digging in the
> corners and crevices for a station hiding here and there, and jumping
> in on the fresh meat newby pileups, and with rates way, way down from
> Saturday afternoon's bee hive.
>
> Do we really want to preserve Sunday afternoon boredom as one of the
> treasured aspects of SS? You like the gorilla and want to keep it?
> Each to his own I guess, but I think that the gorilla has bad breath
> and B.O.
>
> 73, Guy.
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com> wrote:
>> Hi Joe - try operating SO1R (no packet) on SS Sunday if you were on the
>> previous evening - it defines boring, because there is almost nobody to
>> work. The difference between #1 and #10 is at most 50 QSOs.
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
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