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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ Contest Certificates.

To: "'Pete Smith N4ZR'" <n4zr@contesting.com>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ Contest Certificates.
From: "Bill Parry" <bparry@rgv.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:35:03 -0600
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I agree with Pete.  I think that you could allow us to print out the
certificates on line and it would be just fine.  Send out the plaques.

Bill W5VX



-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Pete Smith N4ZR
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 8:48 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ Contest Certificates.

I'm not sure I agree with Randy on this.  If I could download a certificate
with my name, callsign and details of my place in the contest already
inserted, I think that would give me as big a rush as receiving a paper
certificate in the mail.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 11/16/2012 3:35 AM, Maarten van Rossum wrote:
> I certainly can remember my first certificate! In my case it wasn't 
> that long ago, it must have been the year 2008. I emidiately bought a 
> frame to put it in so that I could put it on the wall in the shack. 
> Unfortunaltely it didn't fit the frame (in the US everything is 
> bigger, even the certificates ;-)).
>
> I think easiest way to let the contest sponsor know that there's no 
> need to send a certificate is to not mention your address in the Cabrillo
file.
> If someone left out his of her address by accident, then there should 
> always be the abbility to download the certificate from the sponsors 
> website.
>
> By the way, I for one would like to be able to download my 
> certificates in the European A4 paper size. Fits our frame without having
to modify it.
>
> Keep up the good work Randy!
>
> 73, Maarten PD2R
> PI4DX Contest group
>
>
> Op vrijdag 16 november 2012 schreef Randy Thompson K5ZD 
> (k5zd@charter.net) het volgende:
>
>> Brian,
>>
>> You are right that it is expensive to print and mail certificates to 
>> thousands of people per contest.  However, it is worth it when we get 
>> excited emails from new contesters happy to have won their first 
>> award.  I think we can all remember getting our first few 
>> certificates and hanging them proudly on the wall.  Hard for a pdf file
to match that!
>>
>> We have discussed providing a way for contest participants to opt out 
>> of receiving a certificate.  Perhaps they have a box of them or just 
>> don't want to cause us the expense.
>>
>> The logical place to do this is by a new field in the Cabrillo file.  
>> So far, the people who maintain the Cabrillo file "standard" have not 
>> been interested in adding a new tag.  Perhaps some more support would 
>> encourage them to change their mind.
>>
>> Should there be one new tag that says "don't send certificates or 
>> plaques or anything"?  Or should be there be two?  One for no 
>> certificates and another for no plaques/awards?  Or could it be as 
>> simple as a convention that says if there is no address provided then 
>> don't send anything?
>>
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Randy, K5ZD
>>
>> PS - Hoping for good conditions and lots of certificate/plaque 
>> winners in the CQWW in just 8 days!
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CQ-Contest 
>>> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com<javascript:;>]
>> On Behalf Of
>>> brian coyne
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:19 PM
>>> To: CQ CONTEST
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Contest Certificates.
>>>
>>> On the morning of the ssb contest the mailman delivered two 
>>> certificates from CQ, always nice to get them. One was for CQWW CW 
>>> 2011 the other for CQWW SSB 2011.
>>>
>>> Looking at that mail got me to thinking about the expense incurred 
>>> by CQ Mag in sending us these for free. Two A4 envelopes two lots of 
>>> postal charges, the logistics of stuffing the envelopes, taking them 
>>> to the mailing centre not to mention the task of hand signing them 
>>> when there must be many hundreds if not into the thousand of these 
>>> certificates for both contests. All businesses benefit from cost 
>>> reducing measures and CQ organisation is no exception to that.
>>>
>>> I would venture that the majority of entrants have facilities to 
>>> print e- certificates, perhaps something could be included in the 
>>> cabrillo header or the soabox to the effect that an e-certificate will
be acceptable.
>>>
>>> Just my thoughts anyway.
>>>
>>> 73  Brian 5B4AIZ / C4Z.
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