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Re: [CQ-Contest] Two questions about CQ WW SSB contest logging

To: <k5zd@charter.net>, "'CQ-Contest Reflector'" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Two questions about CQ WW SSB contest logging
From: "N2TK, Tony" <tony.kaz@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:55:39 -0400
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We logged what the other station sent us. Some insisted on giving out serial
numbers and that is what we entered. I wonder how the contest committee will
handle those situations? 
73,
N2TK/NP2, Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Randy Thompson K5ZD
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 1:20 PM
To: 'Hank Greeb'; 'CQ-Contest Reflector'
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Two questions about CQ WW SSB contest logging

Let's not get carried away here.

The CQWW rules state:
"III.13. Post-contest correcting of call signs by using any database,
recordings or confirming QSO's is not allowed (Rule XII.2 always applies)."

I.e., don't correct calls after the contest.

I paraphrased this during the webinar to:
- Put your log in Cabrillo format
- Send it in

We want your log in the proper format.  It makes our job easier and it helps
you keep all of the points that you earned.  Helping a new contester get
their log submitted earns you some extra karma points.

Remember.  This is supposed to be fun.

Randy, K5ZD


> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf 
> Of Hank Greeb
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:55 AM
> To: CQ-Contest Reflector
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Two questions about CQ WW SSB contest logging
> 
> 
> I admit to making an "after contest" adjustment of my cabrillo file 
> for the recent CQ WW SSB contest.  I wasn't quite "with it" when I 
> started the contest, and gave one fellow a "Zone 5" instead of my "real"
Zone 4.
> I tried to edit the contact to put zone 5 in the contact line, but 
> didn't see any "CQ Zone" in the "Edit Contact" box.  Since I couldn't 
> change the CQ Zone during the contest, I entered "sent zone 5 instead 
> of zone 4" in the comment field, and after the fact I changed the one 
> log line in my cabrillo file to Zone 5.
> 
> I now think (but am not sure) that the zone COULD have been changed 
> for this one contact by entering "5" in the "exchange" box, but it 
> wasn't obvious during the heat of the contest.  And, I'll never 
> understand why the "comment" field is in the "Edit contact" pane, but 
> to retrieve the data one must go to VIEW>NOTES (NOT VIEW>COMMENTS).  
> This resulted in a big puzzle, and a note to my two "Elmers" for N1MM 
> software, who pointed out that "Comments" were labeled "Notes" under the
VIEW tab.
> 
> Should my "after the fact editing" of this one line in the log result 
> in disqualification of my entry, and should an orange or red card be
issued?
> The rules specifically say I should not massage the log after the fact.
> My reasoning was that I had the data in the comment or note Field in 
> the N1MM "raw" log, couldn't figure out how to edit it "on the fly," 
> and I didn't want to penalize the other station for a busted QSO 
> because of my error.
> 
> ====================
> 
> The other question involves a newbie who entered the contest using a 
> "non contest" logging programme.  It supposedly made a cabrillo file, 
> but the result did NOT have his zone, nor did it have the received signal
report.
> We managed to "massage" this log with Notepad edit feature, so that it 
> conformed with the cabrillo specs provided by CQWW.
> 
> Yes, again, the rules say one should NOT edit the file after the contest.
> 
> The choice was either NOT submit a log, or do this rather massive 
> editing by putting the local zone and the received signal report into 
> the cabrillo file.  We didn't make any "corrections" just added data 
> which was in the original log but did NOT show up when the programme 
> made a "so called" cabrillo file.  I figure that he might be 
> encouraged to see his call amongst the other folks in the CQ Writeup, 
> and we might have another contester amongst this seemingly dying breed 
> of US Hams.  I also encouraged him to try his logging software to make 
> sure it will do the correct cabrillo file prior to entering another
context.
> 
> Comments will be appreciated.
> 
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