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Re: [CQ-Contest] Who is to blame?

To: "David Kopacz" <david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Who is to blame?
From: Charlie Gallo <Charlie@TheGallos.com>
Reply-to: Charlie Gallo <Charlie@TheGallos.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:27:48 -0400
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On 8/18/2009 David Kopacz wrote:

> I have asked the CC to divulge how they are identifying cheaters, not
> specifically to me, but publicly. They refuse to divulge that
> information in the interest of protecting their methods from being
> circumvented by cheaters. This I can understand to some degree.

They are probably running some sort of fairly basic statistical analysis, and 
knowing exactly what they do will tend to change things

My wife is a statistician, and I've seen her pull some real "interesting" 
trends out of data.  The huge problem is when everyone knows the model and uses 
the same one (which is pretty much what lead to the current financial mess - 
everyone used the same model, developed by Chase)

Except that she is busy as heck, I've been tempted to download the logs from 
CQWW, and set her at it saying "what are the outliers - which stations are 
'odd'".  It won't tell you that they are cheating per-se, but it will tell you 
that "something is different at that station, be it gear, location, or 
operating practices"

I suspect what the CC has done is already IDed a bunch of "outliers", stations 
that make them say "Hey, that's Odd.." (which is the REAL sound of Science 
being done, not Eureka), and they will show up to see WHAT is odd.

Now, what I would HOPE is that if they found something "odd" that was within 
the rules, THEY would not tell the world exactly what the other station is 
doing, that is a competitive secret for the station to give out or not 

-- 
73 de KG2V

For the Children - RKBA!

Hi-ho, hi-ho, it's hand grenades I throw...

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