> I'm sure that the log adjudicators will be setting up a
> private network of skimmers that they will log into to grab
> skimmer spots through the skimmer telnet interface. That will
> provide a database of skimmer spots that will be used for
> later detection of skimmer cheaters.
No skimmer network can duplicate the skimmer spots I receive
from my own copy of Skimmer running on the S&P radio. That
is totally contained in my station and not the product of any
other operator. The use of a locally run, non-networked
Skimmer is no different than a memory keyer or computer
logging with history file and super check partial. Perhaps
less "assistance" than history and SCP files complied by
OTHERS!
Skimmer technology will change contesting just as the
memory keyer, DVK and computer logging have changed
contesting. However, the technology horse is out of
the barn and half way to town - unless you are willing
to "ban" all technology to the assisted category, a
precedent has already been set that says technology
is fine as long as it does not involve another operator
during the contest.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Steve London
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:33 PM
> To: Pete Smith; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Pete Smith
> <n4zr@contesting.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > The problem is that it will be almost impossible to detect a
> > > decisive level of cheating. The statistical methods used
> to detect
> > > packet cheaters simply
> > > won't work.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bzzzt.
> > >
> > > With several network skimmers located at various places,
> all feeding
> > > their telnet outputs to a single database, the same statistical
> > > methods used to detect packet cheaters can be used to
> detect skimmer
> > > cheaters.
> > >
> >
> > I'm not talking about the reverse beacon network, Steve -
> I'm talking
> > about using a Skimmer to feed your logging program locally. There
> > will be no network benchmark for those.
>
>
> You have missed my point.
>
> I'm sure that the log adjudicators will be setting up a
> private network of skimmers that they will log into to grab
> skimmer spots through the skimmer telnet interface. That will
> provide a database of skimmer spots that will be used for
> later detection of skimmer cheaters.
>
> This will work every bit as well as using packet spot history
> to detect packet cheaters.
>
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
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