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Re: [CQ-Contest] Constructive feedback (was: why non-contestershate us)

To: Robert Chudek <k0rc@pclink.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Constructive feedback (was: why non-contestershate us)
From: <k8gt@mi.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:13:14 -0400
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Class acts, gentlemen.  People are tired of the confrontational approach, and I 
appreciate your showing us the way.  Thanks.

73, Gerry  K8GT



---- Robert Chudek <k0rc@pclink.com> wrote: 
> During the CQWW DX Phone contest last weekend I got the dreaded "QSO before" 
> reply to one of my S&P calls. I never made it into their log. We have 
> discussed that situation many times on this reflector and it's pretty much 
> "preaching to the choir".
> 
> I took this mishap as an opportunity to turn it into an education 
> opportunity. The station was a European Contest Club so my presumption was it 
> could be a newer operator at the mic. He most likely didn't know the 
> ramifications of sending "QSO B4" and not logging a second contact.
> 
> I sent a private message to the QRZ.COM email address of the club telling 
> them about my experience. I received a very nice response thanking me for 
> letting them know about this. I was told, like most clubs their population is 
> a mix of seasoned contesters who are tutoring newer operators. They decided 
> to forward my message to their club reflector and reported very favorable 
> discussions that followed.
> 
> Mission accomplished.
> 
> If you are going to bring issues to the attention of other folks or clubs, 
> you need to take the high road. You don't want to start your message with the 
> classic Point / Counterpoint opening by Dan Aykroyd "Jane, you ignorant 
> slut"! You are certain to get the well known response, "Dan, you pompous 
> ass"!  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekend_Update
> 
> Had I vocalized my situation on this reflector I doubt it would have 
> influenced ANYONE. Everyone here already knows to rework the station, log 
> them, and move on. There were no contest clubs in my area 45 years ago, so I 
> made many mistakes along the way. I still make mistakes, but my UBN reports 
> help me understand where I can improve.
> 
> 73 de Bob - KÃRC in MN
> 
> 
> - - - - - - Original Thread - - - - - - - -
> 
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:44:06 -0400
> From: "Shelby Summerville" <k4ww@arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] why non-contesters hate us
> To: "Jim Smith" <jimsmith@shaw.ca>, <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <000801c81b9a$33142190$6401a8c0@acer6e395d0925>
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> 
> Jim Smith wrote: "What do you think of the idea of sending an e-mail to the 
> holder of the
> call with the info as to what happened, when, freq, etc and ask him if
> he approves of this style of operation?"
> 
> I did the exact thing, once, after it happened to me. That particular 
> station has never interfered with me, since. I've always thought it was 
> better to discuss it, first, privately with the "offender"?
> 
> C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 73 de Bob - KÃRC in MN
> 
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