I see absolutely no reason why Mike's idea can't work.
I also see absolutely no reason why a ham running a KP4 station must be
physically located in KP4 -- so long as he's not running the KP4 station but
passing himself off as a VE4, for instance.
Mike is right on the money when he says urban hams are going to face
increasing restrictions, be it from noise, noisy HOAs, antenna restrictions
or whatever.
This should not become a debate about how to keep those people off the air.
73, kelly
ve4xt
If you forget that contesting is about fun first and foremost, you've
already lost.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Tope" <W4EF@dellroy.com>
To: "Tom Osborne" <w7why@verizon.net>; "CQ-Contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote Site Contesting Rules
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Osborne" <w7why@verizon.net>
> To: "CQ-Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote Site Contesting Rules
>
>
>> Seems like whenever someone tries to push the envelope higher, people try
>> and try to find ways to shoot their progress down. With new
>> technologies,
>> things are going to get very interesting in the next few years.
>>
>> But, rules need to be set first. Be a shame if someone invests kilobucks
>> in
>> a remote station, then have some rule say 5 years from now, 'you can do
>> that'.
>>
>> Someone mentioned it 'not being fair'. That is kinda like 'leveling the
>> playing field'. I think fair is in the eye of the beholder. I think it
>> ain't fair that some people have bigger antennas and better rigs than I
>> do
>> :-) 73
>> Tom W7WHY
>>
>
> With urban dwellers facing the onslaught of more and more zoning
> restrictions and the time pressures facing working folks (at least here
> in the states), it would seem to me that the rules SHOULD encourage
> remote operation, but only to the extent that remote operation doesn't
> become a prerequisite for being competitive. IOW, using a remote
> site that is 50 miles from home where property is affordable, noise is
> low, and zoning restrictions are looser, would allow an urban bound
> ham to enjoy the benefits of building a competitive station without
> alienating his family and or suffering from a 100 mile/day commute.
> There is a fellow here in Southern California who does this, although
> for serious contests, he usually drives to the remote site since I think
> he
> still has some control latency problems (he may use dial-up for the
> remote link). This is exactly the kind of operation the rules SHOULD
> encourage. Technology and society are both moving in that direction
> (didn't Ten-Tec recently unveil an ethernet ready HF rig). What you
> DO NOT want the rules to encourage is a guy in Southern California
> running JAs on his home station, and then switching to a remote site
> in Maine when the bands are good to Europe since the only way to
> equalize that kind of competitive advantage would be to have a
> remote site thousands of miles from your primary station location.
> Sure 50 or 100 miles can make some difference in terms of propagation
> differential, but it's generally not a decisive advantage if at all.
>
> How about the following:
>
> "All transmitting antennas must be within a 500 meter circle, and all
> receiving antennas must be within a 500 meter circle. The centers
> of the respective transmitting and receiving 500 meter circles can be
> no more than 100 miles apart."
>
> This sort of rule would allow for operations a'la N7JW (transmit at
> home, receive remote), but would prohibit the entrant from receiving
> at two different locations that are widely (or even not so widely
> separated). BTW, the above rules say absolutely nothing about
> where the operator sits since the only thing that really counts are
> how far apart the antennas are.
>
> 73, Mike W4EF...............................
>
>
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