Jim:
>>Cabrillo _was_ a great idea, but it's falling apart because so many
>>have run off with it on their own. v3 looks to be an attempt to deal
>>with failure to work with what is already specified. Just look at lists
>>of logs received to see just how non-compliant logs are being sent
>>to just ARRL (a major reason why we have Cabrillo). I recently tried
>>to work with a CQ WW log done with a logging product of some
>>significance & here we have a major product that has its own idea of a
>>QSO template.
>
>Brett, you're comparing apples and oranges here. If something is defined
>in the kkn.net spec, but some logging program produces non-compliant
>output, that's a different problem than if someone adopts the format FOR
>THEIR CONTEST, develops their own QSO template, and accepts log
>submissions compliant to THAT TEMPLATE.
Sorry, but you are not getting it at all, Ralph.
That a logging program produces something other than Cabrillo per
the Cabrillo specification is another example of the problem that
Cabrillo has become, as for some reason it seems everybody can
decide what Cabrillo is - including you yourself suggesting that it is
some open-source, make-up-what-you-like standard.
There is no one-size-fits-all solution for contest logs or entries.
Cabrillo was a good way to go about it, but is falling short as
everybody seems to have to go making things up on their own.
Try doing a few non-major contests & get chased to send in
logs. I don't send in logs, I send in entries. Rules say Cabrillo
& Cabrillo has a specification. In that specification there are
words like "shall", "must", etc. Do something like the JARL
has & do as you bloody well please - otherwise Cabrillo has a
specification. Work with it.
Advocating anything else is devoid of logic & contributes to the
problem, Ralph.
>Anyway, I have changed the web page slightly to make it more clear as to
>what is Cabrillo and what is "Cabrillo".
>
> http://www.ad1c.us/contest-id.htm
What is & what isn't bold starts to illustrate just how much Cabrillo
has fallen apart. If you were to look at more than just the contest
name, there would be even fewer.
73 & H(L)NY, VR2BrettGraham
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