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Re: [CQ-Contest] Competing in the Daylight - Making it Happen

To: lyndon@orthanc.ca
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Competing in the Daylight - Making it Happen
From: "Guy Molinari" <guy_molinari@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:21:17 +0000
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Lyndon,
     The reason for multiple boxes (beyond scalability) is for failover in 
case a server goes down.  This is overkill perhaps for smaller contests, but 
for the majors this would probably be prudent.

The reasoning behind HTTP is in that it would sidestep firewall issues.   It 
would also make it easier to secure.   The 'push' side would consist of a 
TCP connection that is held open.

Solaris 10 would be nice as it's support for async I/O is superb.   Linux 
with the e-poll libraries would do almost as well though and it's free.

Could you provide hosting resources?   If so, let's take this offline.

Thanks and 73's
Guy, N7ZG


>From: Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>
>To: Guy Molinari <guy_molinari@hotmail.com>
>CC: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest]  Competing in the Daylight - Making it Happen
>Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:33:09 -0700
>
>>
>>I was envisioning a system where there are hooks in logging  programs 
>>(N1MM,
>>WriteLog, TR-Log, etc.) what would forward log entries to a central  web
>>server cluster via HTTP POSTS's.
>
>HTTP is unnecessary overhead. Updates via UDP will work just fine.   In 
>fact, this whole thing will run fine on UDP.
>
>>The other half of this involves a socket push server cluster that  would
>>support 100,000 or more live connections.
>
>Where do you get this 100000 figure from? That seems awfully high.
>
> > I would need about 3-4 Intel servers
>>running the Linux O/S.   I would also need a load balancer (F5, local
>>director) or another server that can function as a load balancer.   By
>>clustering 3-4 servers there would be redundancy in case one server  
>>should
>>fail.
>
>You should be able to make this work on a single 1GHz P3 Celeron.   You're 
>trying to make this way more complicated than it needs to be.   The two 
>critical resources will be sufficient RAM and a reasonably  fast network 
>stack (for which I would lean towards running this on  Solaris 10).
>
>>2)  I would have to write a detailed specification for the logging  
>>software
>>providers and get their concensus as to how this is implemented.
>
>All you have to define is the UDP update protocol.  This should be  very 
>simple to do.
>
>But before setting off to do all of this you need to address a more  
>fundamental issue: how are you going to prevent people from sending  in 
>bogus log entries?  You need a security layer for the protocol.
>
>--lyndon


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