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RE: [CQ-Contest] Does packet spotting really helps rate that much????

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Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Does packet spotting really helps rate that much????
From: "Mike Fatchett" <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:38:52 -0600
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Jose,

What band was this taken from. Did you look at 40 or 80 or even 160?

I would expect high rates on the high bands most of the time anyway.
Finding the big gun expeditions is usually not all that difficult even for
the casual op.

The beauty of packet from Colorado is having the east coast spot stuff that
we can't hear or work yet.  I am sure they appreciate us spotting the
Pacific and Asia for them.

The other question to ask is what mults did you work from those spots?  Did
the elusive VE8 or Yukon wander by after seeing the spot?

I wonder how many self spots include a plea for certain mults.

Mike
W0MU 


-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of CT1BOH - José Carlos
Cardoso Nunes
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:23 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Does packet spotting really helps rate that much????

With all the e-mails and the debate regarding Self-spotting, I was curious
just what really is the impact of packet spots in a Contest DX Pedition
rate.

Take a look at this small exercise...

I went to DX Summit Spot Database Search page and searched for P40E packets
spots during the 2003 CQWW CW Contest http://oh2w.kolumbus.com/dxs/qin.html
Then I went to my CQWW CW 2003 P40E log and looked how many minutes it took
me to work 30 stations before being spotted and how many minutes it took me
to work 30 stations after the packet spot. From that I take a QSO rate.

Here is the result during the first day of the contest

the fields below are:

Hour
Minute
Time to work 30 stations before packet spot Time to work 30 stations after
packet spot QSO/Rate before packet spot QSO/Rate after packet spot

Of the 34 packet spots I analysed, only 21 times (62%) my rate went higher
than before packet spot.
Not really what I expected....
It seems packet spots don't really have an effect on the overall rate, at
least for P40E...



0       23      0:08    0:10    225     180
0       49      0:09    0:08    200     225
1       2       0:10    0:06    180     300
1       25      0:07    0:10    257     180
2       51      0:10    0:09    180     200
3       9       0:09    0:11    200     164
3       51      0:09    0:09    200     200
4       24      0:11    0:08    164     225
5       11      0:13    0:10    138     180
5       59      0:11    0:12    164     150
6       21      0:13    0:07    138     257
6       38      0:12    0:12    150     150
6       52      0:11    0:10    164     180
7       2       0:11    0:09    164     200
7       21      0:11    0:13    164     138
8       12      0:19    0:10    95      180
9       10      0:10    0:11    180     164
9       35      0:16    0:12    113     150
10      0       0:15    0:19    120     95
10      26      0:16    0:09    113     200
11      19      0:09    0:08    200     225
11      48      0:08    0:09    225     200
12      14      0:10    0:09    180     200
13      15      0:07    0:07    257     257
14      15      0:09    0:06    200     300
15      34      0:12    0:06    150     300
16      30      0:08    0:06    225     300
17      8       0:10    0:08    180     225
18      26      0:08    0:05    225     360
19      27      0:09    0:06    200     300
20      25      0:11    0:14    164     129
21      9       0:09    0:11    200     164
22      36      0:15    0:14    120     129
23      28      0:11    0:10    164     180


73's
José CT1BOH

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