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[CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD

Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Tue Jul 9 22:45:00 2002
Dick,

Thanks for sharing your observations on your 40M four-square vs. a 
40-2CD.  My only caveat is to keep in mind that the comparison you make 
during the summer will not always jibe with the same comparison in 
winter.  Radiation angles tend to be higher in the summer which would favor 
the low yagi over the verticals.  Your observation about the gain of a 
four-square being 6 dB *over a vertical* which makes it about even with a 
dipole over ground is absolutely correct.  However, its not the entire story.

We've been using a wire four-square on 80M here at K8CC since 1994.  We've 
had just about every kind of 80M DX antenna here at this location: slopers, 
delta loops, bobtails, half-squares, a 3L wire yagi and even a beautiful 
N4ZC-style log periodic with the center at 110' and the ends at 90'.  It's 
my opinion (and shared by my guest operators) that none of these antennas 
match the four-square, at least on 80M when you're limited to 120' supports.

That is not to say that the others were bad antennas.  The simple little 
half-square made UN2L's "loud LP 80M signals" list one year.  The wire yagi 
and N4ZC log periodic made lots of gain and were great pileup 
crashers.  But until we put up the four-square we couldn't hear down to the 
weak layer of EU necessary to be able to run successfully on CW from 
W8.  Once we put up the four-square, the results were immediately noticable 
on our 80M line score, and our 80M op was a lot happier too.

Again, I agree with your observation that verticals (and hence, 
four-squares) don't radiate as much signal as a dipole over ground.  I've 
often found, particularly on 75 SSB that with the four-square we can hear 
more DX stations than we can work.  With northern Europeans particularly, 
I'll call and call a perfectly copiable SM or OH and not even get a QRZ? 
from them.  My gut says if I could run about four or five KW output the 
transmit signal from the four-square would match the ability to 
receive.  However, my conscience won't let me do that...

A couple of years ago K3LR (who has a great 80M four-square made from 
Hy-Towers) decided to try some big horizontal antennas like a W2PV 2L quad 
and a 3L linear-loaded yagi.  Perhaps he'd like to share his observations 
here on the reflector, but neither antenna replaced his four-square.

Finally, the answer for 80M might be different than for 40M...

73,

Dave/K8CC



>From Harri M. Mantila OH6YF" <harry@oh6yf.com  Wed Jul 10 03:31:13 2002
From: Harri M. Mantila OH6YF" <harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC guests are already in Finland! Photos...
References: <200207091646.g69GkoV02066@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <000e01c227b9$dcc20110$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>

Hi!

I have put some more photos to my WRTC photo gallery at:
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com 

73 de Harry OH6YF
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