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Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [wrtc96 78] Any news on WRTC 2000???
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC)
Date: Tue Jan 6 13:07:44 1998
In a message dated 98-01-06 12:42:26 EST, jerry@ut4uz.isf.kiev.ua writes:

> Is there any news on WRTC-2000???
>  Just curios, since I'm going to move...

     Yes! The WRTC2000 will be held in beautiful Slovenia and sponsored by
Tine, S50A, and all the contesting boys. Here's a tentative schedule from
Tine:

>>> A very rough schedule of the events should be as follows: 

Wednesday, July 12th
arrival to  4 P.M.  picnic at RIBNO close to Bled castle from 4 to
10 P.M.
 
Thursday, July 13th
visit of Postojna cave and LIPICA (horses)  9.30AM to 4.30PM 
Alternative: visit of Ljubljana (the capitol) 
Meeting with teams and determinations of locations, judges and
escort members at 5.30 PM 
Opening ceremonial of the wrtc-2000 at 7.30PM 
Social event- meeting 8 PM 
 
Friday, July 14th 
Indoor tape competition (PILE UP  tape) for all competitors. 8 AM
Last information and departure to the locations at 1PM (it will
happen that in some cases the judges and competitors will stay at
a contest location until the end of the contest) 
 
Saturday, July  15th 
Departures to contest sites 9AM 
Start of the contest    2PM 
 
Sunday, July 16th 
Contest finish  2PM 
Everybody is back to Bled by 7PM 
Dinner on Bled lake island 
 
Monday, July 17th 
Visit of some places (good food, wine): 9 AM to 2 PM 
Closing ceremony: 7PM 
 
     There is enough room for all the participants and visitors in
the town of Bled where all non-contest happenings will take place.
There are enough conference rooms and other facilities. BLED is a
very nice touristic place just below the Alps in Northern Slovenia.

More details about rooms, reservations, prices etc, will follow
 later. >>>

      There'll be a web page in the near future and more information as we get
closer. Start saving your allowance - this is going to be the BIGGEST PARTY IN
THE HISTORY OF HAM RADIO CONTESTING! Don't miss it.

73,  Steve  K7LXC


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>From patd@wolfenet.com" <patd@wolfenet.com  Tue Jan  6 18:08:44 1998
From: patd@wolfenet.com" <patd@wolfenet.com (Patrick Dayshaw)
Subject: [CQ-Contest] "Worked Before" stupidities and Post Contest Actions
Message-ID: <01BD1A8B.3BE3C0C0@patd@wolfenet.com>


Nice thread on approaches to the WRKB4 issue. I would like 
to make a few comments and base them on the article 
"Contest Rules in Plain Language" by KR2Q in the May/June 
1996 issue of NCJ (National Contest Journal), Vol. 24, Num. 
3. As a member of the CQ Contest Committee Doug (KR2Q) has 
a great perspective on the rules and their intent. His 
article addresses the WRKB4/DUPES issue as well as several 
of the suggestions/options on dealing with it that have 
been made by writers in this thread as follows:


Regarding DUPES he says "As for dupes, don't forget, just 
because you may have it as a dupe doesn't mean the other 
guy does.... Don't worry about filling up your log with 
zero-point QSOs; others depend on it!" in another section 
he states "Log all QSOs, whether or not they turn out to be 
dupes or own-country QSOs. Apply zero points, but log it! 
Other operators depend on it." Seems clear that working the 
dupes is the way to go.


I did however noticed several suggested "solutions/options" 
in this thread that seem a little questionable. Since I'm 
not interested in starting a flame-war I'll just quote the 
suggestions without the referenced calls and ask if these 
are really things that the community considers valid. Again 
I'm basing my questions on KR2Qs article and his very 
detailed "plain language" explanation of the rules.

Writer Number 1 states: "D) Listen to your CW.  Many of us 
have copied 6Y as BY for entire
weekends.  It's what was being sent (I love my old reel to 
reel tape
machine)." and then "E) Review your log for obvious 
boo-boo's."

Item "D)" above is addressed in an entire section titled 
"Tape Recording the Contest". Doug explains why this should 
not be done. He explains in detail and provides examples of 
just that scenario, i.e. "It's what was being sent". He 
clearly explains why "the contact doesn't count". Perhaps 
most telling is the statement "By leisurely copying the 
tape recording post-contest in any segment(s) other than 
one 48-hour shot, you are removing at least two vital 
components of the contest: staying accurate despite lack of 
sleep, and competing under the same (or similar) stress 
factors during the same period. You are also providing 
yourself with the ability to judge your effort and make 
decisions that could allow you to alter your score as 
compared to someone who does not record the contest".

In Item "E)" above hopefully the suggestion is NOT being 
made that in the Post-Contest phase the log be changed to 
reflect the fact that the 6Y was incorrect (discovered via 
the tape recording) and then the log was corrected from the 
BY entry. KR2Q addresses these changes as cheating and 
fraud, plain and simple and again provides detailed 
examples. He states in part "...What you enter into your 
log during the contest cannot be changed, no matter how 
obvious an error it is." He explains what "post-contest 
housekeeping" really means and very clearly states that 
"cleaning your log" is cheating.

Writer Number 2 among other suggestions states "2. Convince 
the station to remove the first qso(one way) mark the qso 
as the good one and remove the original after the test." 
Again according to KR2Qs article this is not allowed. He 
says "Don't prepare QSOs before the contest and don't alter 
QSOs after the contest."

His final sentence sums it up it up nicely... "I hope this 
article encourages further discussion about the rules and 
how they can be defined, and that a positive reaction by 
the readers will result in an accepted method to provide a 
uniform understanding of the game."

Really great article that should remove all doubt about how 
to deal with the dupe "problem".


Patrick
WA7VNI
patd@wolfenet.com







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