I KNEW WE WERE GONNA HAVE PROBLEMS FROM THE VERY FIRST.
I TRIED TO TELL KB5YVT SLUGO HAD TWO "G's" IN THE SPELLING,
BUT NOOOOOOOOO ............... WE HAD TO DO IT HIS WAY !!!
N5RP
/////\\
( # # )
*****oOO-(_)-OOo**************************************
Bob & Mary Beth Perring
Houston, Texas
e-mail perring@infocom.net
Web site http://www.infocom.net/~perring/bucky.html
******************************************************
>From jwittich@nortel.ca (j.) Mon Aug 19 12:59:00 1996
From: jwittich@nortel.ca (j.) (j.)
Subject: OOps!!
Message-ID: <"1384 Mon Aug 19 07:59:53 1996"@bnr.ca>
In message "OOps!!", 'ae2t@localnet.com' writes:
>
>I think he should put the KEYS in the trunk when he puts the antenna on!!!
>
He should operate mobile CW from in the trunk!? Astonishing!
Jeff -- AC4ZO
>From lhaas@pratique.fr (Laurent HAAS - F6FVY) Mon Aug 19 22:40:34 1996
From: lhaas@pratique.fr (Laurent HAAS - F6FVY) (Laurent HAAS - F6FVY)
Subject: new 160 contest
Message-ID: <v01530500ae3ea9a11505@[194.98.4.210]>
Hi Tom
(snip)
> Brian, K6STI, mentioned something that I thought was interesting -
> ZIP codes..
>
> So, here is my modest proposal for the Topband Distance Challange
> exchange -
>
> Call sign + REAL signal report (Ns not allowed) + Grid Square +
> ZIP code
********
I thought it was supposed to be a "DX" contest. It sounds domestic this way :-)
> Tom, NM1Q (tomf@neca.com)
> "VEGETARIAN - Old American Indian word for "I don't hunt so good."
IMHO:
1/ 24 Hr
2/ CW
3/ QRP - LP - Hi Pwr
4/ Include a Multi single class
5/ Reports : 4 digit grid squares (5NN optionnal - but allowed if the op
wants to)
6/ Score : Based on distances - No mult
7/ Name : TopBand DX contest
73
Larry - F6FVY (casual op @ TM1C)
>From kf3p@cais.cais.com (Tyler Stewart) Mon Aug 19 23:09:04 1996
From: kf3p@cais.cais.com (Tyler Stewart) (Tyler Stewart)
Subject: (1)RE: KT-34A SWR problems
Message-ID: <199608192209.SAA27947@cais.cais.com>
A couple of comments to clarify a few things people said in their responses.
First, the newer antennas use cap tubes with no holes on the outside. These
"holeless" tubes have vent holes that get drilled in the TOP of the INSIDE
3/8" tube at both locations. The latest cap tube insulators are blue.
Regarding those insulators, I recently received several new sets of them
that had air pockets on the inside surface (where it touches the 3/8" tube)
on about half of them. I had lots of extras, so I just chucked that bad ones.
Like someone suggested, if you buy one of these KLM's used, you are a fool
to put it up without rebuilding/updating it. It's a lot of work, but it'll
pay off in the end. I've bought 4 used KT34XA's so far, and each of them
had assembly
and/or corrosion problems of some sort. I've also put up three here in a stack,
and all three work exactly the same (perfectly). I not only rebuilt them using
new cap tubes, etc., but I put #6 sheet metal screws in all the clamp joints
(except the ones around the cap tubes), as well as thru the telescoping
elements. Of course, double check all dimensions before doing this as it may
be a little hard to get apart afterwards.
Be aware that KLM sells an "update kit" for the KT34A and XA. The XA one is
about $45 or so US. It comes with all new outside cap tubes (no holes), new
blue insulators, a tub of penetrox, a couple of worm clamps, and a set of
instructions on where to drill the inside tube for the vent holes, as well as
the latest dimensional drawing. I wouldnt put up a used KLM without installing
this kit, even if you have the latest design. You'll be amazed at the amount
of corrosion and tiny critters that can work their way in there.
Another minor tip which isnt critical is to retighten all the hardware after
final assembly and some temperature cycling (ie., come back 24 hours or more
later and retighten) Especially the boom to element worm clamps tend to loosen.
These should be tightened with a small ratchet wrench: nutdrivers wont do here.
This will help keep your elements straight after it's up.
The KLM requires a great deal of time and care to assemble correctly, and a used
one requires an even more thorough inspection of all parts for defects,
mostly of all the plastic pieces. Check the center insulator/mounts for
cracks (these
have supposedly been redesigned recently), check the plastic insert in the
90 degree hairpin tube, check the feed strap supports for cracks, and just
buy a new set of the cap tube insulators and replace them ($10 by themselves
or included in the update kit).
>Hi there.
>
>I wish to thank all those amateurs who responded to my mail.
>
>I got a lot response concerning "let me know all you got", so it's
>probably better to send it to the list again.
>
>At the very bottom You'll find some reply to those mails.
>
>first of all, here's my mail again:
>-------------------- cut here ---------------------------
>> Thanks in advance for reading and probably replying.
>>
>> I recently bought an used KT34A that has been up for last summer.
>>
>> I just build it up again (I had only to mount the elements to the
>> boom, the elements have been mounted before).
>>
>> It now is about 4 meters above roof, maybe 15..20 meters above
>ground
>> level. The roof is about 60 degrees, so the beam should have enough
>> "free air" aorund. There are no buildings high enough to
>> disturb nearer than 200m round our building.
>>
>> Now let's go to the problem:
>>
>> I measured the VSWR:
>>
>> a) 10m: there are no problems at all, VSWR better 1:1.5 from 28.0 to
>> 28.7 mc, above slightly increasing to about 1:2 @ 29.7 mc
>>
>> b) 15m: there is a problem, I think: VSWR 1:2.0 @ 21 mc increasing
>to
>> 1:3.0 @ 21.450 mc. I'm just wondering why the Beam shows a
>> VSWR below 1:1.5 @ 20.3 - 20.7 mc, that's what I would have
>> exspected maybe 500 kc above...
>>
>> c) 20m: the symptom is similar to 15m: VSWR is somewhat higher than
>> expected and a VSWR similar to the diagram shown in the
>> mounting manual may be found about 500 kc below 14 mc.
>>
>> The VSWRs move slightly according to the beam directing in an normal
>> range (i.e. +- 0.2); this should be normal according to the roof, I
>> think.
>>
>> Now let's ask some questions:
>>
>> 1. Did anyone using the KT34A have the same problems, and how did
>he
>> solve it?
>>
>> 2. Does anyone have more precise manuals than the original
>> mounting manuals explaining how to tune the beam
>> (i.e. 100kc @ 21 mc = xxx inches)
>>
>> 3. Does anyone know email or web addresses of KLM ?
>>
>> 4. I have read an article concerning the KT34XA, written by DL1BU
>> for the German CQ-DL magazine, issue October 1980.
>> There he wrote something about problems he had with the
>capacitor
>> tubes because problems of KLM. After mounting the new parts
>> with blue caps, all problems were gone.
>>
>> So what? I have blue capacitor caps.
>>
>> Also, I've heard rumours about problems with some KT34As sold
>> last one or two years having the same problem with the
>capacitors.
>> In those rumours KLM is said to send FAXs with tuning
>instructions
>> while in the meantime already sending the right capacitors out,
>> i.e. while already knowing the problem.
>>
>> If so, I would concider not spend hours and hours climbing on my
>> roof or mast, but I would better be waiting for spare parts.
>>
>>
>> Thank You all in advance for any useful comments.
>>
>>
>> best 73s de Werner DL4NER.
>-------------------- cut here ---------------------------
>
>Now there are all replys:
>
>- From: Tony Brock-Fisher <fisher@hp-and2.an.hp.com>
>- To: Werner Maier <Werner.Maier@rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
>- Subject: Re: KT-34A VSWR problems
>-
>- Werner-
>-
>- I've had two KT-34XA's up , one for several years.
>-
>- 1. You bought the antenna used, and merely reassembled it. I think
>maybe
>- you should have rebuilt it. Did you check that all the straps were
>tight
>- and properly installed? Was Penetrox used to assemble it? When I
>took
>- one of mine down, I measured all contact resistances and found the
>- strap at the very end of the tip of the trombone sections to be
>- the weak link.
>-
>- 2. I had 7 out of 40 blue capacitor caps cracked. I called KLM and
>- talked to Bruce. They have no web page as yet. He said the cracking
>- was caused by only 3 things: installation with hammer, use of
>solvents/oils,
>- or bad lot of plastic. He sent me replacement set free.
>-
>- 3. As for capacitor tubes, only change I know of was going from
>ones with
>- little drain holes in them to ones without. This, and changes in
>tube
>- cap plastic material from green to blue, necessitated measurement
>- changes.
>-
>- 4. Does SWR change as you rotate? I have found antenna to be
>sensitive to
>- nearby objects, i.e. 27' guy wire sections. If so, SWR will change
>- as you rotate. Also, antenna may just be shifted low in frequency
>because
>- of close proximity (4 meters) to roof, which may look like ground.
>-
>- In return, I'd be very interested in any info you get, and also the
>- article you refer to.
>-
>- -Tony, K1KP, fisher@hp-and2.an.hp.com
>-
>-------------------- cut here ---------------------------
>-
>- From: Ed Privette <ED-AB4PY@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
>- Subject: Re: KT-34A VSWR problems
>-
>- At 11:02 8/16/96 +0000, you wrote:
>-
>- I just did the same thing Werner, bought a used KT-34A, about 8
>years old
>- and it is ok on 10/15 but the swr on 20m is about 3:1 and the
>resonant freq
>- is 14.5mhz.
>-
>- Please forward all the replies you receive, it mite help me also.
>-
>- Mni thanks and 73s de ed
>-
>- -------------------- cut here ---------------------------
>-
>- Subject: Re: KT-34A VSWR problems
>- From: k6ll@juno.com (David O. Hachadorian)
>-
>- Hi Werner,
>-
>- The easiest way to troubleshoot a KT-34 or XA is to take
>- a DC ohmmeter and measure the resistance between the
>- 15 meter capacitor can to the 10 meter capacitor can on
>- each element half. This one measurement tests _every_ joint
>- in the entire trap assembly. You should see about 0.5 ohm
>- if all of the connections are clean and tight (after
>- subtracting the resistance of the ohmmeter leads).
>-
>- There should be no need to vary from the recommended
>- factory settings, unless the antenna is coupling to
>- nearby objects. In that case, try to move the object
>- or the KT-34.
>-
>- Good luck. Let me know how you make out.
>-
>- Dave, K6LL
>- k6ll@juno.com
>-
>- -------------------- cut here ---------------------------
>-
>- To: Werner Maier <Werner.Maier@rrze.uni-erlangen.de> (Werner Maier)
>- From: k7rls@nettally.com (Christie, Mike)
>- Subject: Re: KT-34A VSWR problems
>-
>- Hey Werner,
>-
>- Check your element alignment.
>-
>- Are they all nice and neat with everybody pointed in the same
>direction,
>- like God intended? Or, are they rolled over and opposing eachother,
>the way
>- KLM intended?
>-
>- My is like "God's intention" and my SWR on 20m and 15m are high
>[just like
>- your KT34A] and flat on 10m [because it is full-size and there is no
>- capactive loading]. Mine still works and works very well on 15 and
>20m, but
>- I have to tune the higher SWR out with my antenna tuner. If the
>elements
>- were opposing [ala KLM], 15 and 20m my KT-34A would be as flat as a
>board, hi.
>-
>- This is my third installation of the antenna and my "helpers"
>aligned the
>- elements to look pretty, hi. Previously, they were opposing and
>flat, flat,
>- flat.
>-
>- Might help?
>-
>- 73,
>-
>- mike, k7rls/4
>-
>- k7rls@nettally.com
>-
>- -------------------- cut here ---------------------------
>-
>- From: "Douglas L. Klein" <WD8AUB@IX.NETCOM.COM>
>- To: Werner Maier <Werner.Maier@rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
>- Subject: Re: KT-34A VSWR problems
>-
>- One comment (from a former KT34A owner) is that you should make
>DOUBLE
>- certain you put the elements on the boom in the right place, the
>right
>- order, and that the traps are FACING the right direction. That is
>- critical. And it makes a difference if the elemements are upside
>down.
>- The weep holes are DOWN.
>-
>- And the phasing straps and driven element must be connected
>correctly.
>-
>- I have seen SWR problems when I took it down, and later put it back
>up
>- with the front and rear driven elements backwards. Or the traps
>facing
>- the wrong directions.
>-
>- Does that help any?
>-
>- 73 Doug WD8AUB
>-
>- -------------------- cut here ---------------------------
>
>Now lets spend some time with comments to all those replys:
>
>The Article:
>------------
>
>The German Amateur Radio Club (DARC) offers a monthly issue of a
>magazine, the CQ-DL. It may be comparable to the CQ-Magazine or
>others,
>too.
>
>DL1BU has testet lots of antennas and HF- or VHF- equipement and
>published all those in that magazine. In 1980, Issue 10, there is a
>very
>long test of the KT-34X and the KT-34XA, about 11 pages, and all in
>German.
>
>This article does not compares the KT34 to other tribanders, but it
>shows
>how this antenna works, how loading is done, and somewhat more...
>
>And this article is full of smith charts and SWR diagrams showing a
>false SWR because he had trouble with the capatitor tubes and got the
>right ones just some weeks before the cq-dl 10/1980 should leave
>printing, so he has not been able to repeat all measurements in that
>time. But he wrote, the antenna did work well, just as he build it up
>with the right capacitor tubes.
>
>......................................................................
>
>The element alignment:
>----------------------
>I just build the antenna like the previous owner of it. He signed
>every
>element like that: "direct. l", "direct. r", "refl. l", "refl. r",
>and so
>on. So I'm very sure that I've the build the antenna the same way HE
>did.
>
>I was wondering why the elements looked somewhat strange to me, some
>of
>the "traps" seemed to look forward, some backward, so I took the
>manual
>and have seen, that this IS wanted by KLM, so I put the elements
>together the way it is shown in the manual.
>
>......................................................................
>
>Capacitor Caps:
>---------------
>mine are blue and all seemed to be intact, but I did not control
>everything exactly.
>
>......................................................................
>
>DC-Ohm meter:
>-------------
>
>This might be a very good Idea. Thanks.
>
>......................................................................
>
>Plans for the Future:
>---------------------
>
>Our roof is about ten meter long and at one end (about 1.5m) the mast
>for the KT-34A is mounted. at the very other end, maybe 8m away,
>there's
>a second mast holding VHF equipement.
>
>So moving the KT34 or moving other objects (the house... hi) is not
>possible.
>
>
> A) --------------------- kt 34
> !
> !
> !
> !
> ! 4m
> !
> B) !
> /\ ! <-- about 12..15m above ground
> / ! -----
> / ! \
> / ! \
> / ! 2m \
> / ! \
> ------------------------
> / \
>
>
>I think, I will take the KT34 down at roof level (B) and measure the
>VSWR again and compare it to (A). Then I will measure all distances
>(elements at the boom and trap distances) and compare those to the
>mounting manual. After that I will know more and decide what to do.
>
>Thanks all for Your help and don't expect a success mail to early,
>I do not know, when I will have the time to do all this. But mast
>climbing is a nice hobby, too. Ever tried ?? ;-)
>
>
>Best regards.
>
>73 es gd dx.
>
>Werner DL4NER.
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
> Email: werner.maier@rrze.uni-erlangen.de werner.maier@muekno.de
> Amateur Packet Radio: dl4ner@db0box.#bay.deu.eu
> Novell-Betreuung am Regionalen Rechenzentrum Erlangen
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>
>From cshinn@connect.net (charles d. shinn) Tue Aug 20 03:10:31 1996
From: cshinn@connect.net (charles d. shinn) (charles d. shinn)
Subject: TopBand Distance Contest
Message-ID: <01BB8E02.1DCBE0C0@a2p05.connect.net>
I've just read the 2nd days mail of 160 contest ideas. There seems to be =
3 constants,which, when combined with a little out of the box thinking =
could redirect the game into a whole new type of contest.
- Distance seems to be a constant.
- Grid squares have value.
- Computers are all but a must because of #2 above.
Why not call it the 160 Marathon? Because of grid squares and computers, =
one doesnt have to have too much imagination to extend to a marathon =
concept. Say, for instance the first one to accumulate (what is a =
marathon distance? 20 mi 385 yds?) 203,850 km in the time period wins. =
So if the test is 24 hours and someone qualifies in 18.5 hrs as the =
first one done then he/she wins.Perhaps some mix of distance, time and =
geography to spice the pie. Can you imagine you finishing first with a =
unique to blow your mileage? There is room for some stratedgy if all the =
variables are looked at.=20
Holster your zippo's folks- I'm not married to this; just a thought!
73, Chuck W7MAP
----------
From: Bill Fisher, KM9P[SMTP:km9p@contesting.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 1996 9:15 AM
To: cq-contest@TGV.COM; topband@frontier.net
Subject: TopBand Distance Contest
OK... N6TR is working on a first draft of the rules. =20
I would like to hear from anyone who would be interested in doing some =
work
for the contest. If you are interested, please email me. =20
We need help with the following:
1. Checking logs. Tree supplies software.
2. Awards: Getting awards together and out in a timely manner. May be 2
jobs. One person gets awards printed, another gets them made out and =
shipped.
3. Announcements. Someone to coordinate announcements to the magazines =
&
newsletters.
4. Prizes: Someone to seek donations for prizes.
5. Club liaisons: I would like 1 person from each of the major =
contesting
clubs to act as a simple point of contact for info regarding the =
contest.
Basically you read some mail from time to time.
Thanks
Bill
---------------------------------------------
| Contesting Online... The ultimate |
| source of ham radio contest information | =20
| http://www.contesting.com |
---------------------------------------------=20
>From k7fr@ncw.net (Gary Nieborsky) Tue Aug 20 00:47:27 1996
From: k7fr@ncw.net (Gary Nieborsky) (Gary Nieborsky)
Subject: RF
Message-ID: <199608192347.QAA23953@bing.ncw.net>
Ya know, I kind of like the E&M field standards! For the location
priveleged (....land stretchin' out so far and wide...) I can see how the
FCC rules could be modified to ELIMINATE the 1.5kW limit and base it
entirely on field strength. Hmmmmm... towers 175 ft from the house, 117' to
the 34XA, nearest neighbor 1,688 feet away.....WOW.......4CX15,000 here I
come!
73 Gary K7FR
Antenna Farms
"I don't live in the middle of nowhere, but I can see it from the top of my
tower."
>From k5na@bga.com (Richard L. King) Tue Aug 20 00:49:03 1996
From: k5na@bga.com (Richard L. King) (Richard L. King)
Subject: New 160M Contest
Message-ID: <199608192349.SAA27425@zoom.bga.com>
I would prefer a full 42 or 48 hours contest because I think stamina is a
part of contesting (I was upset when they stopped having the 96 hour ARRL DX
Contest).
I also don't mind calling CQ all day long on 160 meters since that is when I
get most of my ham magazine reading done. I never seem to have time during
my normal hours. Just too busy I suppose.
Any 160M contest should be primarily a nighttime contest. If it means
getting two good nights of 160 meters into the contest instead of one, then
having time-off hours would be ok with me. Since the contest is to be held
in the dead of winter, I would suggest making it a 48 hour contest with only
30 operating hours allowed. Off time would be a minimum of 6 hours for each
break (except at the beginning and the end of the contest).
However, our winter is someone else's summer and the length of theirr nights
to operate would be rather short. If this is to be truely a world-wide
contest, then perhaps 24 hours of operating and 24 hours of off time out of
the 48 hours would be the thing to do. That will do more to equalize the
effective operating time across the world and take away a timing advantage
from any selective points. Maybe this approach would have time off periods
of 8 hours minimum.
Anyway you do it, you must remember these points:
1. A 160M contest is an opportunity for having two nights of fun and
making it a
one night contest is a "missed opportunity".
2. Time off and time operated should allow all operators to plan their
operating strategy so that they can be on during the peak condition
night hours and be allowed to operate at both at their sun-rise and
sun-sets.
3. All parts of the world should have an equivalent amount of quality
nightime operating hours with all other parts of the world.
4. Don't make the point/distance calculation so complicated that you
aren't even sure if your computer can do it right.
5. Make sure that a reasonable contest exchange is copied both ways.
6. Make allowances for 'not-in-contest' QSOs to count, at least partically.
7. Anything else I can't think of right now.
73, Richard
K5NA@BGA.COM
http://www.realtime.net/~k5na
>From k4pql@nina.pagesz.net (Howie Hoyt) Tue Aug 20 01:49:45 1996
From: k4pql@nina.pagesz.net (Howie Hoyt) (Howie Hoyt)
Subject: CW Super Check Partial Data Base
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960819204527.20235B-100000@nina.pagesz.net>
The SCP's have been moved to ftp location
ftp.jzap.com/pub/k4pql
Starting with the August build, the .DTA files
are sorted by call.
73, Howie K4PQL
>From harpole@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Charles H. Harpole) Tue Aug 20 02:52:16 1996
From: harpole@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Charles H. Harpole) (Charles H. Harpole)
Subject: Recent notes
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.960819214817.19408D-100000@Pegasus>
Hey guys, I've been off for three weeks (only three weeks???) and here
are some replies:
1. who is this Overlord guy on the RF body hurts stuff??? Who, just WHO,
is the most hated man in ham radio this season??? guess.
2. The RF hurts stuff is unenforcable. Comma on, Fox Charlie Charlie,
who do we think we alls is kiddin ??
3. OOOO, I gotta cancer from the police radio, ooooooooo.
Cu kids, de K4VUD
>From k4pql@nina.pagesz.net (Howie Hoyt) Tue Aug 20 03:31:42 1996
From: k4pql@nina.pagesz.net (Howie Hoyt) (Howie Hoyt)
Subject: PVRC/NC August Meeting
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960819222950.21924A-100000@nina.pagesz.net>
All contesters are invited to the August 28 meeting of the N.C.
branch of the PVRC.
The meeting will start at 19:30 at the qth of W1IHN in Raleigh.
Pls contact Bert (W1IHN@GNN.COM) or myself for directions.
73, Howie K4PQL
>From thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson) Tue Aug 20 03:47:08 1996
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson) (David L. Thompson)
Subject: Got info on YU1NR
Message-ID: <199608200335.XAA22382@answerman.mindspring.com>
Thanks to all who answered on YU1NR..I have a street and PO address for him
plus his name.
I still have no clue on what to do with Ukraine stations that only list
their name or name/city on their logs. The Ukraine buro won't take im so I
guess I'll match up cities to good entries if possible. I have 4 logs going
back to 1991 that are still in limbo (can't send cert).
Dave K4JRB
>From k2wk@crystal.palace.net (Walt Kornienko) Tue Aug 20 05:17:35 1996
From: k2wk@crystal.palace.net (Walt Kornienko) (Walt Kornienko)
Subject: Turning 2 antennas with one TIC
Message-ID: <199608200417.AAA25895@crystal.palace.net>
Hey all!
Can two antennas be turned with a single TIC
ring rotator? I envision mounting a 205CA in
the cradle and a 40-2CD 10' below the 205.
If you have done this, or knwo how to do it,
PLEASE respond via e-mail. 73 & thanx for
taking the time to read this.
*****************************************************************
* *
* 73 de Walt Kornienko - K2WK (FRC) *
* *
* k2wk@crystal.palace.net or K2WK@N2BIM.NJ.NOAM *
* Snail: 52 Sunset Inn Rd Lafayette, NJ 07848 *
* 201-579-1966 (machine) or 201-579-3660 (shack) *
* *
* "You are today where your thoughts have brought you." *
* -author unknown *
* *
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>From garyk9gs@solaria.sol.net (Gary Schwartz) Tue Aug 20 05:39:06 1996
From: garyk9gs@solaria.sol.net (Gary Schwartz) (Gary Schwartz)
Subject: TopBand: New 160M contest, my view
Message-ID: <Pine.3.02.9608192304.D8894-a100000@solaria.sol.net>
On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Bruce (AA8U) wrote:
> In favor of numerous categories of entry, SO, SOA, MO, MM, M2, MOLP, MOLPA.
If this will be a multi-transmitter single band contest (MTSB) I hereby
reserve the first 25 kc's of the band, every kc. :) The first five kc's
will be available for rent. I figure that if the FCC can auction
spectrum, then so can I!
73,
Gary K9GS
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>From wes@prysm.net (Wes Attaway) Tue Aug 20 05:43:29 1996
From: wes@prysm.net (Wes Attaway) (Wes Attaway)
Subject: Topband Time
Message-ID: <199608200443.XAA32391@ns2.prysm.net>
I think 24 hours is the minimum time period that should be considered for
an "International" contest on 160. Anything less would clearly be a
detriment to some part of the globe. A 48-hour period, with some lesser
amount of ON time, say 30 hours, would be more practical. Topband is not
like 40 or 20. I can see why Tree is agonizing over the time element. If
distance and 4-character grid squares are going to be the key elements
(which I think is great) then it seems to me that the time factor just sits
right down on top of the whole strategy equation. The time factor must be
equal for everyone around the world, and should include some flexibilty to
allow for personal "strategy" decisions. Wives? They are great .... and
powerful. But when did one of them ever "order up" a 160 opening?
--------------- Wes Attaway (N5WA) ----------------
2048 Pepper Ridge, Shreveport, LA 71115
318-7973012 (Office); 797-4972 (Fax)
------------------- wes@prysm.net ----------------------
>From garyk9gs@solaria.sol.net (Gary Schwartz) Tue Aug 20 05:45:57 1996
From: garyk9gs@solaria.sol.net (Gary Schwartz) (Gary Schwartz)
Subject: TopBand: New contest
Message-ID: <Pine.3.02.9608192355.E8894-b100000@solaria.sol.net>
On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Richard L. King wrote:
>
> Not accurate enough. My wife and I changed our FCC address from New York to
> Texas back in January. We got our new licenses back long, long ago and our
> addresses are correct in the FCC data base. However, Buckmaster shows the
> correct address for my wife (KU2Q) but shows my address incorrectly as still
> being in New York. Several E-mails to Buckmaster hasn't help the situation.
> At least it hadn't a couple of weeks ago when I last looked.
>
> Also, the locator in Buckmaster has my wife's location as being about 8-10
> miles away from where it should be. That's enough to cause inaccuracy
> between grid squares. I suspect they use the post office location for the
> locator.
>
This is true. I live about 5 miles from town and the designator is
different. The first 4 are correct, but the last two are off by more than
one. While this would not make a difference for the proposed contest in
my case, there could be several cases where hams live very close to the 4
digit line.
I was talking to W9XT about the ZIP code thing just last week. He stated
that he looked up the callsigns of several local hams on Buckmaster and
they had different 6 digit grids in a few cases. All one ZIP code.
Anyone know how Buckmaster arrives at this data?
73,
Gary K9GS
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>From kn6dv@QNET.COM (Will, KN6DV) Tue Aug 20 06:43:00 1996
From: kn6dv@QNET.COM (Will, KN6DV) (Will, KN6DV)
Subject: SCCC team 1 score NAQP
Message-ID: <199608200546.FAA20833@guitar.qnet.com>
Here the claimed score for Team 1 SCCC
WA7BNM 95,776
KJ6HO 92,796
N6HC 92,400
KN6DV 76,956
AB6FO 67,298
------------------------------------
TOTAL 425,226 POINTS
73 Will, KN6DV
>From trey@cisco.com (Trey Garlough) Tue Aug 20 09:10:38 1996
From: trey@cisco.com (Trey Garlough) (Trey Garlough)
Subject: New 160M contest, my view
Message-ID: <199608200810.KAA07812@pwallema-sun.cisco.com>
My $0.02:
First, I think this should be thought more of as an "activity weekend"
rather than a contest. Activity begins at 12Z Saturday, runs for 24
hours, no mandatory offtime. This means Japan gets to bed at a decent
hour Sunday night.
If this were ever to become a real contest with DX participation, why
should we make RZ1OWA (or whatever they are called these days) turn
off the radio for eight hours when the band is open? They ain't gonna
be seeing a lot of daylight there the week after Christmas. Besides,
it's an activity weekend, not a non-activity weekend.
The activity must be a multiple of 24 hours, otherwise it is unbalanced
for the participants. If conditions happen to be bad during the 24
hour period, then it's bad luck. Single band contests have no business
being more than 24 hours long.
o Exchange is simply four letter grid designation, no RST, no anything else.
o No multipliers.
o QSO points based strictly on distance relative to grid centers.
All scoring will be computerized. Anyone who wants their score
published will provide their log in machine-readable form, preferably
via email. All other logs will be considered checklogs. The log
checking and scoring program will use its own database to compute
QSO points. The grid square you log will be ignored in calculation
of the official score.
o CW only. No SSB weekend.
Why torture ourselves with another SSB contest? Why antagonize the
pack with another SSB contest?
o No extra points for low power/QRP/etc or any of this drek.
Nor shall incentives or point multipliers be given for lame antennas,
lack of operating skill, satellite QSOs, copying the Field Day message,
or use of battery power. Nor shall there be top ten boxes for any of
this stuff either. Instead, the results will be published simply as
a long list of extensive line scores that include anything anyone can
think to suggest, such as:
OT6T AAnn 2417.3 1011 191 21.1 D g ++ 130 p 3 ON4UN,WN4KKN,DL1VJ other Flanders
This shows call, grid square, QSO points made, QSOs, number of grids worked --
sure, grid squares aren't part of the score, but the info is
intersting! -- hours of on-time, power level, best antenna, height of
antenna in feet, p or np for packet or no packet, number of operators,
operator list, other stuff, name of radio club.
The way you would decode the power is with a chart like this:
A 2 watts or less
B 20 watts or less
C 200 watts or less
D 2000 watts or less
To determine the best antenna, consult a chart like this:
a slinky dipole
b somewhat less lame antenna
c 1/4 wave sloper
d inverted vee
e 1/2 wave sloper
f shunt fed tower
g real 1/4 wave vertical
h 2 1/4-wave verticals
i 4 1/4-wave verticals
- no special RX antenna
+ small loop for RX
++ beverages for RX
The results will be published in sorted order on the basis of QSO
points, with no top ten boxes or club scores or any of that, in
electronic form. There will be no contest writeup. There will be
no records officially sanctioned by the sponsors. If we can talk a
magazine into publishing the results, they will appear in a half
page of mouseprint, like the CD Party results in QST.
Because the results will be in electronic form, everyone can download
them from the net and load them into Excel or Lotus 1-2-3 and sort
them in any fashion they wish. This means there will be a large
number (thousands) of top ten boxes, but they will all be "virtual"
top tens -- you have to compute them yourself! Maybe you will make
the top ten in the world in the 20 watt category. Maybe you will be
world high in the 200 watt slinky dipole category with packet
assistance. Maybe your club will make the highest score of any club
when dividing the sum of the QSOs points of the entries by the sum of
the heights of the antennas. Maybe you will be the highest score
station in grid area EMxx.
Printed results will be provided to all stations providing an SASE.
Logs must be received within three weeks of the activity. Results
will be published two weeks after the log deadline.
o No trophies.
o No certificates.
o No mugs.
o No plaques.
Since there will be over 1000 top ten boxes, it will be incumbent
upon the contest entrant to generate his own certificates and
trophies since this will cause an undue burden on the contest
sponsors. Third-party sponsorship of prizes is welcomed, but
the contest sponsor will have no specific affiliation with the
third party sponsors. Third party results summaries, contest
writeups (such as the nice writeups K5ZD makes in QST these days
for the Sweepstakes), analytical writeups, and so on are welcome,
but will have no specific affiliation with the contest sponsors
and will not be considered part of the "official" results.
--Trey, WN4KKN
>From w5kft@nts-online.net (Bryan Edwards) Tue Aug 20 11:22:22 1996
From: w5kft@nts-online.net (Bryan Edwards) (Bryan Edwards)
Subject: Sixth Annual W5 DX BASH Oct 5-6
Message-ID: <199608201022.FAA67666@home.nts-online.net>
The Sixth Annual W5 DX BASH is scheduled
for October 5-6 at Lake Buchanan near Austin, Texas.
All DX'ers, Contesters, VHF'ers, Big Guns and Little
Pistols are invited.
The BASH is a great time to meet and socialize
with other DX'ers and Contesters from all over the
country in a very relaxed and informal setting. In
addition, great programs on antennas, DX'peditions,
and other related subjects.
Full details are on the Bash homepage at
http://applink.net/tejas/w5bash.html For
other information, contact W5KFT via email at
w5kft@nts-online.net Phone numbers for info
at 806-745-3692 (office) or 806-799-5783 (home).
Make your plans now to come and join all
the others at the BASH on October 5-6.
73 Bryan W5KFT
>From 9h1el%global.net.mt@TGV.COM (Jeff Morris) Tue Aug 20 19:56:05 1996
From: 9h1el%global.net.mt@TGV.COM (Jeff Morris) (Jeff Morris)
Subject: SARTG Score 9H0A
Message-ID: <MAPI.Id.0016.006831656c2020203039364330303432@MAPI.to.RFC822>
Hi all,
My apologies for sending information of that nature to such
an esteemed assembly as this. I have forwarded it to wf1b as
recommended by Jay, WS7I (73 to Hal, WA7EGA) and to 3830 as
suggested by WN4KKN (tks).
Thanks for putting me straight.
Best 73
Jeff Morris/9H1EL/9H0A
9h1el@global.net.mt
QSL via LA2TO
>From floydjr@Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) Tue Aug 20 10:27:45 1996
From: floydjr@Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) (Jimmy R. Floyd)
Subject: SARTG RTTY 96 Scores II
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19960820092745.27e79f2a@interpath.com>
SARTG 96 RTTY
RAW SCORES
Compiled by
>>WA4ZXA<<
floydjr@interpath.com
Date Posted: 08/20/96
CALL SCORES QSO'S PTS DIST DX
------------------------------------------------------------------------
SINGLE OP/ALL BAND
9H0A 1,589,180 779 8780 181
SM3KOR 1,289,610 659 7245 28 150
OH2BP 1,066,725 583 6495 26 139
SM5FUG 1,059,520 563 6160 27 145
OH2GI 850,680 501 5560 21 132
PA3ERC 726,440 434 5080 26 117
OH2LU 570,240 411 4455 18 110
SM3LBN 289,945 252 2815 103 87
SM5EIT 185,500 207
G3YJQ 124,605 164 1755 11 60
CE8SFG 83,490 127 1815 13 33
AB5KD 1,039,700 663 7025 148
NO2T 736,440 458 5415 47 89
N1RCT 693,750 482 5550 49 76
KQ4GC 547,995 409 4605 57 62
WA4VQD 417,450 353 3795 49 61
VE3FJB 244,900 262 3100 31 48
WA0ACI 229,900 292 3025 42 34
KE1FO 212,000 224 2650 29 51
WA4ZXA 181,335 215 2355 33 44
KE7GH 178,640 314 3190 34 22
NA2M 155,520 202 2160 34 38
KD8FS 152,130 217 2305 36 30
KA2CYN 150,000 177 2000 35 40
KC4HW 137,280 189 2080 34 32
K0RC 111,910 183 1805 38 24
AA9RR 111,825 163 1775 39 24
W6/G0AZT 108,160 159 1690 36 28
K0BX 101,500 159 1750 28 30
KF3P 83,260 152 1810 17 29
W7RSJ 66,005 152 1535 24 19
VE7QO 65,095 126 1385 25 22
N2CQ 56,240
AC6DR 52,750 111 1055 33 17
W2JGR/0 52,080 107 1085 29 19
NS1Z 46,320 83 965 26 22
KC4ZHQ 46,295 97 985 27 20
KA1IXG 9,430 38 410 14 9
SINGLE OP/SINGLE BAND
40M
W2UP 108,100 192 2300 15 32
KF3P 83,260 152 1810 17 29
KF4BU 41,700 143 1390 14 16
20M
SM5AAY 84,870 168 1845 14 32
WA4JQS 110,414 190 2165 17 34
N2CQ 48,960
MULTI SINGLE
PI4CC 823,200 489 5600 32 115
AA5AU 775,520 462 5240 73 75
AF4Z 362,780 337 3740 41 56
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
PLEASE DO NOT SEND ANY SCORES FOR ANY CONTEST TO THE CONTEST REFLECTOR!!
SEND THE RTTY SCORES TO WF1B REFLECTOR OR TO ME DIRECT!!!
Please no attached files or logs!! Also remember these scores are not
official!!!
73's Jim
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* Jimmy R. Floyd (Jim) Thomasville, NC *
* *
* Amateur Call: >> WA4ZXA << *
* Packet Node: >> N4ZC << *
* Internet Address: >> floydjr@interpath.com << *
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>From floydjr@Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) Tue Aug 20 10:27:42 1996
From: floydjr@Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) (Jimmy R. Floyd)
Subject: NAQP SSB 96 Scores II
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19960820092742.18e79596@interpath.com>
NAQP 96 SSB
Raw Scores
Compiled by
>> WA4ZXA <<
floydjr@interpath.com
Date posted: 08/20/96
CALL SCORE QSO'S MULTI
------------------------------------------------------------
SINGLE OPERATOR
N4ZZ 244,404 1116 219
NM5M 194,135 947 205
K0EJ 184,625 875 211
AA8AV 184,080 885 208
KF3P 159,964 812 197
NA5Q 143,592 772 186
AA0SQ 125,388 774 162
KA4RRU 123,714 711 174
N4BP 119,250 750 159
AB5SE 111,931 647 173
AA0OB 110,840 652 170
KE2VB 105,270 605 174
N5FG (WQ5L) 103,887 679 153
WA8YRS 103,572 548 189
KQ4HC 99,968 568 176
W7ZRC 98,552 776 127
WA7BNM 95,776 656 146
KB3AFT 94,114 544 173
K9BG 93,225 565 165
KJ6HO 92,796 703 132
N6HC 92,400
WB5B 91,676 559 162
WA6KUI 87,584 544 161
KR4U 86,289 587 147
N6KI 80,470 619 130
N1PBT 77,770 505 154
K3II (WB3ESS) 77,520 570 136
KN6DV 76,956 636 121
AB6FO 67,298 506 133
KR4DL 62,205 429 145
AA4UF 61,962 449 138
N9ITX/7 60,298 511 198
K7C (KG7TE) 60,000 455 132
WQ5G 55,440 419 131
WB0OLA 52,785 391 135
N3BDA 49,440 412 120
KD4HA 46,854 342 137
AE4EY 32,336 344 94
WA4ZXA 30,492 363 84
N3ADL (N3UHZ) 28,086 253 111
W1IHN 26,800 268 100
KS4XG 25,875 225 115
AE0M 18,300 245 75
VE6JY 14,430 185 78
KM9P 4,061 131 31
KB9NMU 1,058 46 23
MULIT-OP
NC0P 421,022 1769 238
KC4ZV 140,097 697 201
AC4ZO 54,740 391 140
W5EHM 47,151 403 117
TEAM SCORES
SCCC#1 425,226
OPERATORS IN MULIT-OP
NC0P NC0P,WD0GVY,WA0ETC,WA0FLS,WO0V
W5EHM N1PVB,SQ9DDZ,KA5WSS
AC4ZO AC4ZO,AD4ZE,KE4DRJ,KE4OQO,KF4EAH,KF4BKM,N4YTO,KT4OC
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
PLEASE DO NOT SEND ANY SCORES TO THE CONTEST REFLECTOR FOR ANY CONTEST!!
SEND THEM TO ME DIRECT OR TO THE 3830 REFLECTOR.
PLEASE NO ATTACHED FILES!!! ALSO NO LOGS AS THESE NOT OFFICIAL SCORES!!
73's Jim
**********************************************************
* Jimmy R. Floyd (Jim) Thomasville, NC *
* *
* Amateur Call: >> WA4ZXA << *
* Packet Node: >> N4ZC << *
* Internet Address: >> floydjr@interpath.com << *
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