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PAT WA7NIN FONE #

Subject: PAT WA7NIN FONE #
From: Ai7b@teleport.com (Ai7b@teleport.com)
Date: Thu Aug 10 07:59:16 1995
I need to get ahold of Pat....anyone have his fone number????


>From Larry Tyree <tree@cmicro.com>  Thu Aug 10 15:07:13 1995
From: Larry Tyree <tree@cmicro.com> (Larry Tyree)
Subject: QSYing
Message-ID: <199508101407.HAA18186@cascade.cmicro.com>


There are several techniques used to QSY to another band.  Some people
assume you are going to stay on your same frequency but on the new
band (ie: 14045 -> 21045 -> 28045).  Others will pick a frequency
likely to be clear (ie: up the band around 050 or 060).

In the old days before the rigs had a memory of the frequency you were
last on, the first method was perferred.  Now with computer frequency
control, the quickest way to QSY is to type in the new frequency.  

This gets more complicated if the band you are going to is serviced by
a second radio.  And if that radio is a C line without digital display,
and maybe the crystal for that band is off a little from the others...

One tool we could use from the old CW traffic nets is the G signal that 
indicates we are going to be turning our bandswitch in the next second.
It is a short version of GG, meaning you are going to QSY.

So, it gets down to a personal choice which frequency to use.  
I personally like to use something above the normal activity.  Maybe
060 is a good choice.  If we used a standard frequency for this type of
thing (or range of frequencies), maybe some people will just listen there.
It is always fun to follow two stations and work both of them.

Tree N6TR

>From Daniel R. Violette" <Daniel_R._Violette@ccmail.anatcp.rockwell.com  Thu 
>Aug 10 17:26:04 1995
From: Daniel R. Violette" <Daniel_R._Violette@ccmail.anatcp.rockwell.com 
(Daniel R. Violette)
Subject: QTH
Message-ID: <9507108080.AA808068603@ccmail.anatcp.rockwell.com>

     [Can't resist...]
     
     You sure you want a town already up.  Without a town you'll have less 
     neighbors to interfere with...  ;)
     
     73, 
     
     Dan   KI6X
     
     e-mail:  Daniel_R._Violette@ccmail.anatcp.rockwell.com

     


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: QTH
Author:  wosborne@nmsu.edu at SMTPGTY


I will be movig to Dallas next month and I was wondering if anyone knew of a 
house or land for sale in the Frisco/Prosper area without tower restrictions or 
with a town already up?  Thanks
     
William Osborne, AA5ZQ
wosborne@nmsu.edu
505-646-3919


>From De Syam <syam@Glue.umd.edu>  Thu Aug 10 17:09:07 1995
From: De Syam <syam@Glue.umd.edu> (De Syam)
Subject: YO DX Contest; K3ZO results and comments
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950810114633.5067A-100000@latte.eng.umd.edu>

What with all the reports of NAQP activity, one would have thought that 
there were no W's left to compete in the YO DX Contest.  Not so!   I did 
and I also heard KA1DWX, my frequent partner in second tier DX contests, 
knocking them off as well. 

Here's my breakdown:
 (SOAB CW only):
             Band       QSO      YO provinces   ITU Zones

               80        12            4           2
               40        65           21           9
               20       129           22          13
               15         1            0           1

TOTALS                  207           47     +    25  (x 1156 pts) =
                                            83232 points, final score

Comments:  Since we East Coasters have been accused of doing nothing but 
"hitting F1 all weekend long" in the big contests, let  it be said that I 
use these second tier DX contests to hone my S&P techniques.  In the 
first place, I prefer to work people who are really in the contest I am 
in and not just doing me a favor by offering to give me a point.   
Secondly, some contest sponsors only give you credit for a QSO if the 
other station's log was received.

In one instance on 40, however, someone called me after I finished with a 
station I called so I worked him, and then a couple of others called, so 
sensing I was in demand, I moved up a bit and ran a few until the well 
went dry.  Guess there were others S&P'ing besides me!  Which brings to 
mind a truism: "If everyone S&P's and nobody calls CQ, the bands are 
awfully quiet!"   A couple of times on 20 when I absolutely couldn't find 
anyone new, I called CQ and ran off a few.

Comments on conditions:
80: QRN but I got every European I could hear.
40: Excellent conditions, but Radio Vatican still puts out their hash.
20: Conditions were pretty good, band open pretty late.
15: Only one European worked here;  I had the feeling that the band was 
    open at times but nobody was giving it a try.


Apologies to the USA op in the NAQP who thought I was calling 
him on 40 when I dumped my call in on a YO.  I worked the YO, 
of course, but a couple KHz away I could hear the USA fellow, 
whose call I didn't get, asking me for my name and state.  
Sorry, I don't do the NAQP or HF sprints.

                                             Very 73,

                                           Fred Laun, K3ZO              

>From jbwolf@most.magec.com (James B. Wolf)  Thu Aug 10 17:40:47 1995
From: jbwolf@most.magec.com (James B. Wolf) (James B. Wolf)
Subject: TopBand: Type of wire for...
Message-ID: <9508101642.AA22377@ss4.uiv>

>> 
>> Don't forget that as the frequency decreases the skin effect also decreases.
>> Steel wire (electric fence wire) has poor conductivity.
>> And since the coating may or may not last on a steel coated wire, along with 
>> the fact that skin effect is poor at 160 meters, I would dismiss any kind of 
>> steel wire for beverages.
>> 
>> Jim, KR9U
>

>I disagree. A Beverage has a high voltage (therefore low current) 
>induced. low current = low loss. I've used 17 ga electric fence wire for 
>several years for a Beverage and am very pleased with performance. Also 
>it's real cheap - about $10 for 1/2 mile at Agway. 73


>Barry N. Kutner, W2UP       
>---------------------------


>Actually, you have it backwards.  The higher the frequency, the more
>pronounced the skin effect as the current is confined to thinner and
>thinner regions near the outside of the conductor.  At DC, the current
>flows through the entire conductor.
>
>73, Ward N0AX
>



Let me say it this way.
Since Steel wire is magnetic, its losses at AC are greater than at DC.
Being magnetic it has a permeability which makes the skin depth smaller. So 
at AC we
really have two reasons that the losses are greater. It's magnetic property 
and it's 
restitivity. Depending on frequency its losses can be at much as 20 times
higher than copper in the HF bands.
If I get time I could go through the numbers at 160 meters.

Jim,  KR9U
--------------------------------------
James B. Wolf                       Phone:219-429-4638
Mail Stop:25-71  Fax:8215  Email: jbwolf@most.magec.com
MESC, 1313 Production Road, Fort Wayne, IN 46808
   


>From n2ic@drmail.dr.att.com (LondonSM)  Thu Aug 10 16:54:53 1995
From: n2ic@drmail.dr.att.com (LondonSM) (LondonSM)
Subject: QSYing
References: <199508101407.HAA18186@cascade.cmicro.com>
Message-ID: <9508100954.ZM5589@dr.att.com>

On Aug 10,  7:07am, Larry Tyree wrote:
>
> So, it gets down to a personal choice which frequency to use.
> I personally like to use something above the normal activity.  Maybe
> 060 is a good choice.  If we used a standard frequency for this type of
> thing (or range of frequencies), maybe some people will just listen there.
> It is always fun to follow two stations and work both of them.
>
> Tree N6TR
>-- End of excerpt from Larry Tyree

Personally, I would rather not use a standard frequency.  The point of moving a
multiplier is to work a multiplier that, perhaps, my competition won't work.  I
found the guy on band X, and was savvy enough to move him/her to band Y.  I
don't want my competitors to freeload on my efforts.

This is a contest, after all.  If you want to freeload, stick to DX nets !

Steve, N2IC/0
n2ic@dr.att.com



>From McCarty, DK 'Dav" <DKMC@chevron.com  Thu Aug 10 17:51:09 1995
From: McCarty, DK 'Dav" <DKMC@chevron.com (McCarty, DK 'Dav)
Subject: To Move or Not To Move
Message-ID: <CPLAN065.DKMC.025351090095222FCPLAN065@ION.CHEVRON.COM>


From: McCarty, DK 'David'
To:  OPEN ADDRESSING SERVI-OPENADDR
Subject:  Re: To Move or Not To Move
Priority:

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Tree,

If we all use the same freq, think of the confusion when we all fire up on
top of one another.  When I am asking a guy to move, the first thing I do is
start listening for a good clear spot; usually NOT 050, but high in the band
to get away from the crowd, or low in the band if it is a stateside station
with an Extra Class license (or a VE, for example).

Another key point that ought to be mentioned is that the usual practice for
getting together on the target band is that the specified frequency is a
starting point, if it is busy you move UP the band--not down--and the asking
station is the one who chooses the clear spot and calls the other guy.

Dave K5GN
dkmc@chevron.com

BTW I had trouble in NAQP moving people to 10M until I figured out that the
S-Line VFO lost 0.5KC of calibration in the first 5 KC up from the marker
signal at 28.00000 ... which meant I was calling *below* the intended
rendezvous point.


 ----------
>From: TREE
>To: DKMC
>Subject: QSYing
>
>To: cq-contest@tgv.com
>
>Subject: QSYing
>
>There are several techniques used to QSY to another band.  Some people
>assume you are going to stay on your same frequency but on the new
>band (ie: 14045 -> 21045 -> 28045).  Others will pick a frequency
>likely to be clear (ie: up the band around 050 or 060).
>
>In the old days before the rigs had a memory of the frequency you were
>last on, the first method was perferred.  Now with computer frequency
>control, the quickest way to QSY is to type in the new frequency.
>
>This gets more complicated if the band you are going to is serviced by
>a second radio.  And if that radio is a C line without digital display,
>and maybe the crystal for that band is off a little from the others...
>
>One tool we could use from the old CW traffic nets is the G signal that
>indicates we are going to be turning our bandswitch in the next second.
>It is a short version of GG, meaning you are going to QSY.
>
>So, it gets down to a personal choice which frequency to use.
>I personally like to use something above the normal activity.  Maybe
>060 is a good choice.  If we used a standard frequency for this type of
>thing (or range of frequencies), maybe some people will just listen there.
>It is always fun to follow two stations and work both of them.
>
>Tree N6TR
>


>From De Syam <syam@Glue.umd.edu>  Thu Aug 10 18:04:30 1995
From: De Syam <syam@Glue.umd.edu> (De Syam)
Subject: K3ZO's "don't ask first" philosophy
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950810124447.5067G-100000@latte.eng.umd.edu>

On Wed, 9 Aug 1995, N2IC wrote:
> On a more sarcastic note, it was really gratifying to note in the NAQP how
> quickly K3ZO's "don't ask first" philosophy has spread within the contest
> community. Really appreciated the "CQ NA" dumped on top of my 10 meter QSO's,
> who were, no doubt, within the skip zone of the offender.
> 
I had not intended to belabor the subject further, but having seen my 
call used perjoratively, I rise to my defense with the following points:

1) Apparently from the way I worded my original remarks, many people did 
not notice that I said that I always listen to a frequency carefully for 
several seconds before trying to use it, and that if it becomes obvious 
that it indeed was in use, I move.

2) In my first ten years of contesting, frequency fights were unknown.  I 
would like to get back to that tradition.

3) Asking "QRL?" is the lazy man's way of determining whether a frequency 
is in use.  This impatient contester is unwilling to take the time to 
listen carefully to see if the frequency is really in use so he calls 
"QRL?" immediately upon landing there.  If he does not receive a 
"politically correct" response, he considers the frequency to be "his" 
even though it becomes obvious that it really was in use.  ("Well, I 
asked and nobody said it was in use.")  So then the issue becomes NOT 
whether the frequency was really in use or not, but whether the person 
using it responded in the proper manner.  This is progress?

I was not in the NAQP so I was not a witness to what happened, but N2IC 
can rest assured that I would never do to him what he complained about!

                                             Very 73,

                                           Fred Laun, K3ZO 
 

>From SELBREDE%ARIA-2.EDW@mhs.elan.af.mil (Bob Selbrede)  Thu Aug 10 17:57:00 
>1995
From: SELBREDE%ARIA-2.EDW@mhs.elan.af.mil (Bob Selbrede) (Bob Selbrede)
Subject: NAQP SSB Contest Records
References: <11CE283002A1D0D1@-SMF->
Message-ID: <6CBD293001A1D0D1@-SMF->

Hi All,

        Listed below are the NAQP SSB Contest Records for the last 11 contests. 
 The start date of January 1991 was chosen because the current rules were 
put into effect at that time.  I thought these might be of interest to many 
the NAQP enthusiasts out there who are planning for the upcoming NAQP SSB 
Contest, August 19th.  These records were compiled from published results 
(Jan 95 SSB results will be in the Sep/Oct NCJ) and corrections should be 
sent to me for future updates.  I hope the formatting of this data doesn't 
get too messed up in the translation.  I'll post the CW Records next, if 
this goes well.

73, Bob W9NQ

********************************

NAQP SSB RECORDS         Compiled by Bob Selbrede, W9NQ
(Records are based upon published scores from Jan 91 through Jan 95)


SINGLE OPERATOR RECORDS:

AREA CALL      SCORE      YEAR

CT   K8HVT/1   90,552     01/93
MA   KA1IG     95,325     01/93
ME   KN1M      76,560     01/91
NH   WR1L      102,752    01/92
RI   WZ1R      137,555    01/92
VT   WT1L      148,856    01/92

NJ   WA2MKM    74,358     01/93
NY   N2BA (K8HVT)    149,100  01/92

DE   WN3K      124,410    08/94
MD   KA3VYN    75,465     01/92
PA   WR3G      246,339    01/92

AL   AA4UF     90,000     08/94
FL   K4XS      174,720    01/91
GA   KM9P/4    246,018    01/92
KY   KB4SRE    111,502    01/92
NC   N4AA      103,350    01/91
SC   N4ZC (KI4HN) 110,466     01/95
TN   N4ZZ      201,664    01/95
VA   K7SV/4    119,098    01/95

AR   KI5BV     44,250     01/94
LA   W5WMU     83,578     08/94
MS   N5KKG     16,247     08/93
NM   AA5B      279,565    01/92
OK   N5CG      197,340    01/92
TX   N5RZ      242,928    01/91

CA   N6UR (KR6X)     303,563  01/93
HI   No Logs Submitted

AK   KL7FAP    4,576      08/93
AZ   K6LL/7    300,150    01/94
ID   KE7UH     44,352     01/91
MT   N9ITX/7   169,892    01/95
NV   KI3V/7    160,080    08/93
OR   N7MMQ     70,119     01/94
UT   WE7B      88,872     01/92
WA   K7QQ      212,520    01/93
WY   WC7S      57,081     01/91

MI   WA8ZDT    234,362    01/94
OH   KW8N      165,220    01/95
WV   N8II      143,850    01/93

IL   WB9TIY    161,330    01/92
IN   W9RE      70,000     01/91
WI   KA9FOX    229,934    01/92

CO   K0GU      244,571    01/95
IA   N0AXL     100,810    01/95
KS   N0BIW     59,736     01/95
MN   KB0LC     113,274    01/91
MO   AA0CR     119,504    01/93
ND   ND1H/0    80,785     01/94
NE   KV0I      107,820    01/91
SD   WD0T      181,376    01/93

VE1  VE1MQ     27,120     01/91
VE2  VE2AWR    3,872      08/94
VE3  VE3EJ     187,682    01/95
VE4  VE4VV     189,620    01/94
VE5  VE5MX     99,372     01/94
VE6  VE6JY     65,351     01/94
VE7  VE7CV     106,554    01/92
VE8  No Logs Submitted
VO1  No Logs Submitted
VO2  No Logs Submitted
VY1  VY1JA     14,756     08/94
VY2  VY2SS     115,040    01/93

KP4  W8HNI/KP4 9,652      01/93
PY   PY2LI     12,600     08/92
TG   TG9AJR    29,082     01/92
VP2E VP2EXX    18,620     01/91
VP5  VP5V      213,110    01/93
VP9  WA1AWJ/VP9      7,920    01/92
XE   XE1/AA6RX     141,575    01/95
ZF   ZF2NE/ZF9 8,800      08/94


TOP 10 SINGLE OPERATOR SCORES:

CALL      SCORE      YEAR

N6UR (KR6X)     303,563  01/93
K6LL/7    300,150    01/94
AA5B      279,565    01/92
K4XS      277,728    01/93
W6UE (KA6SAR)   257,296  01/92
WR3G      246,339    01/92
KM9P/4    246,018    01/91
K0GU      244,571    01/95
N5RZ      242,928    01/91
K0GU      238,389    01/94


MOST QSO'S:    K6LL/7, 1305 QSO's, 01/94
MOST MULT'S:   WR3G, 271 Mult's, 01/92


TOP 3 MULTI OPERATOR SCORES:

CALL      SCORE      YEAR

WB5VZL    598,404    01/94
W0AIH     463,681    01/94
KW8N      438,212    01/94


TOP 3 TEAM SCORES:

NAME                               SCORE     YEAR

SCCC
(N6UR, W9NQ, W6UQF, KJ6HO, KI6VC)  764,704   01/93
Sultans Of Shwing #1
(K0GU, WD0T, WB9TIY, N4ZC, N0BSH)  721,772   01/95
SCCC
(K6LL, AB6FO, KJ6HO, WA7BNM)       654,064   01/94

>From McCarty, DK 'Dav" <DKMC@chevron.com  Thu Aug 10 18:27:10 1995
From: McCarty, DK 'Dav" <DKMC@chevron.com (McCarty, DK 'Dav)
Subject: NAQP CW SCORES (v.3)
Message-ID: <CPLAN065.DKMC.291927100095222FCPLAN065@ION.CHEVRON.COM>


From: McCarty, DK 'David'
To:  OPEN ADDRESSING SERVI-OPENADDR
Subject:  NAQP CW SCORES (v.3)
Priority:

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Another update with all posts received to-date.

Repeating an earlier question:  what are the team and
individual records for the NAQP CW?

 --GN
updates to dkmc@chevron.com

NAQP CW AUGUST 1995

TEAMS:

Texas DX Society #1   K5GA, K5GN, K7UP, AD5Q, W5ASP       620,694
Florida Contest Group K1ZX, AC4NJ, AC1O/4, WD4AHZ, NP4Z   585K


INDIVIDUALS:

CALL          QSOS  MULT  SCORE   BREAKDOWN

N5RP            360   ?       ?
N4RJ(KM9P)      550   ?       ?
W4NT(KM9P)      550   ?       ?
NP4Z            530   ?       ?

K5GA            690  217 149,730 21/10  56/29 177/45 208/50 124/47 104/36
K1ZX            704  212 149,248 26/13  77/31 184/45 228/51 136/47  53/25
N4ZZ            700  202 141,400
K0RF            718  196 140,728  14/8  36/22 138/42 257/48 130/38 143/38
K5GN            648  213 138,024 18/10  39/25  93/35 217/50 156/45 129/44
AC4NJ (WC4E)    637  206 131,222 28/15  80/31 132/40 200/47 135/45  62/38
KC5NWX          566  229 129,614
K7UP(KN5H)      624  207 129,168   5/5  63/27 143/45 208/47 109/42  96/42
AD5Q            630  193 121,590  16/8  61/25 155/43 219/49 107/39  72/29
K0EJ            599  195 116,805

AC1O/4          620  188 116,560
AB6FO           573  198 113,454   8/6  45/23 135/42 193/48 108/42  84/37
KF0H            548  206 112,880
K7SV            534  205 109,470 28/15  82/40 124/46 158/44  87/35  55/25
W5NN(KB5YVT)    551  188 103,588   6/5  64/30 147/41 159/45 114/39  61/28
W1WEF           580  179 103,280  11/7  56/25 167/42 197/44  97/34  52/27
K6LL            559  183 102,297   7/4  42/19 129/40 188/48 105/38  88/34
K4PQL           563  179 100,777 27/17  71/29 149/39 198/46  84/34  34/14
KI3L            535  134  98,440
WA2SRQ          569  173  98,437 24/12  99/33 140/39 205/44  66/27  35/18

K4AMC           552  177  97,704
N6ZZ            524  177  92,748   0/0  38/24 108/36 167/43 112/38  99/36
WD4AHZ          519  175  90,825
W5ASP           502  162  82,000
AA0OB           490  158  77,420   0/0  23/15 114/36 178/41  95/34  80/32
NJ9C            503  150  75,450
N5NMX           457  162  74,034
KC4ZV           443  166  73,548
KE7GH           499  133  66,367   0/0  21/10 128/42 270/49  80/32    0/0
W9WI            476  135  64,260

W1IHN           420  151  63,420 23/16  66/30 154/41 143/43  27/16    7/5
WR3O            423  143  60,489  12/9  84/31 110/36 148/37  59/26   10/4
WA5JWU          415  145  60,175  12/7  42/19 143/40 125/34  65/28  28/17
AA4NC           388  151  58,588 14/10  47/26  79/34 158/44  55/22  35/15
K8NZ            386  151  58,286 20/13  56/28 126/38 102/35  43/19  39/18
K6XO            400  143  57,200
ND3F            394  144  56,700
K7NPN           393  142  55,806   0/0   11/4  75/35 174/43  81/36  51/24
K3TLX           350  152  53,200 10/10  76/31  95/39  95/39  44/19  30/14
AC4ZO           355  125  44,375   8/6  49/23 101/35 156/40  26/14   15/7

KO9Y            325  130  42,250
WQ5L            318  123  39,114   0/0  54/25 132/37 101/39  29/20    2/2
N8AAT           285  132  37,620   4/4  55/29  86/36  76/34  37/16  27/13
N4TQO           294  124  36,456
K5WA            267  123  32,841
AE2T            287  113  32,431   0/0  83/28  79/34  74/29  39/14   12/8
AE0M            261  113  29,493   0/0  34/18  97/40  91/37  30/14    9/4
N0AXL           215   ?   24,000
K8MR            213   91  19,383   7/6  46/25   13/9  81/29  54/17   12/5
NG3K            206   82  16,892   0/0  21/13  91/32  92/35    0/0    2/2

K5RC            177   82  14,154
WA7BNM          129   81  10,449   3/3  23/15  36/22  25/18  18/13  24/10
AA7BG           107   65   6,955   0/0   11/7  17/10  29/18  21/13  29/17
K1TN            107   64   6,848   0/0  25/14  15/12  44/24  17/10    6/4
K9MA            100   63   6,300   5/4  27/17  28/19  38/21    2/2    0/0
WN3K            109   57   6,213
WA6OTU          103   ?    6,077
KD0AV            96   61   5,856   0/0  17/12  41/25  31/18    6/5    1/1
W9SZ             89   51   4,539   0/0    9/9  40/21  40/21    0/0    0/0
K8JP             73   51   3,723 14/13  41/25  18/18    0/0    0/0    0/0

AA8SM            77   43   3,311   0/0  35/22    0/0  42/21    0/0    0/0
WU1F             80   41   3,280
K8JP             73   ?    3,162




>From jholly@hposl62.cup.hp.com (Jim Hollenback)  Thu Aug 10 18:36:20 1995
From: jholly@hposl62.cup.hp.com (Jim Hollenback) (Jim Hollenback)
Subject: K3ZO's "don't ask first" philosophy
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950810124447.5067G-100000@latte.eng.umd.edu>
Message-ID: <9508101036.ZM29797@hpwsmjh1.cup.hp.com>

On Aug 10,  1:04pm, De Syam wrote:
> Subject: Re: K3ZO's "don't ask first" philosophy
> 
> 2) In my first ten years of contesting, frequency fights were unknown.  I 
> would like to get back to that tradition.
> 

Amen ... however, what about the two radio crowd that was off on another
band working the mult and now comes back to what you thought was a clear
frequency but he considers it his run frequency? instant war ... push 
that F1 again. Progress is a neat thing.

> 3) Asking "QRL?" is the lazy man's way of determining whether a frequency 
> is in use.

And if someone else was sizing up the frequecny you can bet he will say
yes and promptly start CQing.


>From jesposit@sctcorp.com (Joe Esposito)  Thu Aug 10 18:50:00 1995
From: jesposit@sctcorp.com (Joe Esposito) (Joe Esposito)
Subject: 1995 NAQP CW Score
Message-ID: <m0sgbku-0003azC@sctladm.sctcorp.com>

Call:   K2YJL/M         Class:  Single Op, single band

Mode:   CW              Location:       Wilmore, KY

Score:  25 QSOs X 9 States = 225 points

Time:   1 hour, 51 minutes

Comments:       Decent condx to SW and W. No propagation at all to NE.
                I hadn't really planned to operate this one but could
                not resist after hearing strong sigs on 10 meters.

Rig:    Uniden HR-2510 mounted in 1990 Olds running 25 watts into a
        Hamstick. QTH was a hill-top on a farm in rural KY.

73,

Joe, K2YJL/M

>From n6ig@netcom.com (Jim Pratt)  Thu Aug 10 18:51:58 1995
From: n6ig@netcom.com (Jim Pratt) (Jim Pratt)
Subject: K3ZO's "don't ask first" philosophy
Message-ID: <199508101751.KAA12872@netcom4.netcom.com>

> 
> And if someone else was sizing up the frequecny you can bet he will say
> yes and promptly start CQing.
> 
> 
Hey, be quiet;  that's my trick!  :.>

73, N6IG

>From ken@packetcluster.com (Ken Wolff)  Thu Aug 10 22:07:01 1995
From: ken@packetcluster.com (Ken Wolff) (Ken Wolff)
Subject: K1EA returns to the internet
Message-ID: <19950810140701.0aaca900.in@server>


I am finally back on the internet with a slightly different address. It is
now ken or k1ea@packetcluster.com. The old domain name 
was packetclustr, without the 'e'.
Ken Wolff (ken@packetcluster.com)


>From Jeff Steinman <Jeff.Steinman.0247501@nt.com>  Thu Aug 10 18:01:58 1995
From: Jeff Steinman <Jeff.Steinman.0247501@nt.com> (Jeff Steinman)
Subject: Shakespere on Multipliers
Message-ID: <n1404055991.13407@nrchq1.rich1.nt.com>

                      Subject:                              Time:  12:32
PM
8/10/95

"To move or not to move, that is the question" ?

KN5H brings up an interesting point. I can understand his viewpoint, and
those of others who are always being asked to QSY, although living in
Texas it is rare to be asked to QSY. :-)

Someone made a good suggestion about making skeds. It's a good way to
have a pileup waiting for you on a freq. The only potential trouble is
that propagation could change and when you do QSY, you waste time
calling CQ and getting no/little answers. I asked K7UP to move on 2
occasions in the NAQP and Steve obliged both times. The first was from
40 to 20 to 10, taking maybe 90 seconds total. The second was from 160
to 80, taking maybe a minute. It's hard to say if Steve lost rate due to
obliging my requests. As I recall he had many calling on 40, but I asked
anyway. It costs ZERO to ask and being in sales I'm used to "NO". Thanks
for obliging, Steve! 

As far as "losing your run frequency" I don't know that I have ever
heard the bands so crowded in the NAQP that you can't find a hole.
That's one of the reasons hopping around is so fun and relatively risk
free, unlike CQWW where there is a lot more VALUE to a [clear] run
frequency than NAQP.

Steve made a point that he was very active on all bands and that others
SHOULD have been able to find him when he was on a band, rather than
having to ask for a QSY later. If I would have had my second radio wired
in, then yes, I probably would have asked fewer people to QSY because
they would have been in the log. Even with 2 radios you can't be
everywhere all the time. 

58 of my 566 QSOs (and 58 of 229 multipliers) were the direct result of
a QSY. Those 58 QSOs came about from 32 QSY events, as often I was able
to move a station to 4 or 5 bands. I probably had another half dozen
move attempts that didn't pan out. One of the tricks in August is
deciding the order to QSY, as you want to maximize the multipliers from
the move. I recall many stations got progressively louder as we went
from 20 to 15 to 10 LATE in the contest. I don't think there is a
better/easier operating event for moving people, i.e., making a BIG
impact on your score, than the NAQP. 

BTW, at this time my radio/antennas are still under manual control. Hope
to have that straightened out by January !
73 
Jeff  KR0Y


>From SELBREDE%ARIA-2.EDW@mhs.elan.af.mil (Bob Selbrede)  Thu Aug 10 20:10:00 
>1995
From: SELBREDE%ARIA-2.EDW@mhs.elan.af.mil (Bob Selbrede) (Bob Selbrede)
Subject: NAQP CW Contest Records
References: <11CE283002A1D0D1@-SMF->
Message-ID: <94F2293001A1D0D1@-SMF->

Hi All,

        Listed below are the NAQP CW Contest Records for the last 11 contests.  
The start date of January 1991 was chosen because the current rules were put 
into effect at that time.  These records were compiled from published 
results and corrections should be sent to me for future updates.

73, Bob W9NQ

********************************
NAQP CW RECORDS          Compiled by Bob Selbrede, W9NQ
(Records are based upon published scores from Jan 91 through Jan 95)


SINGLE OPERATOR RECORDS:

AREA CALL      SCORE YEAR

CT   K8HVT/1   125,424    01/91
MA   K5ZD/1    90,300     08/93
ME   NY1E      81,096     01/91
NH   K1DG (WZ1R)     122,664  01/93
RI   WZ1R      70,470     01/92
VT   N4DW/1    53,040     08/93

NJ   KZ2S      226,530    01/91
NY   KA2AEV    100,648    01/91

DE   N8NA/3    76,300     01/93
MD   KN5H/3    101,436    01/93
PA   K3WW      145,555    01/91

AL   K4IQJ     118,768    01/92
FL   K4XS      158,828    01/91
GA   KM9P/4    229,015    01/93
KY   N4OGW     130,628    01/93
NC   K4PQL     131,440    01/94
SC   K0EJ/4    146,268    01/93
TN   K4LTA     118,992    01/93
VA   W4XD      69,372     01/92

AR   KM5G      101,184    01/94
LA   W5WMU (K5GA)    127,308  08/94
MS   W5XX      130,092    01/93
NM   AA5B      159,495    01/92
OK   N5CG      133,570    01/91
TX   N5RZ      204,050    01/92

CA   N6UR (KR6X)     209,108  01/93
HI   AH6JF     9,490      08/94

AK   K6NA/KL7  2,847      08/91
AZ   K6LL/7    191,590    01/91
ID   WO7Y      93,055     01/94
MT   No Logs Submitted
NV   KZ4H/7    34,122     01/91
OR   AA7NX     70,642     01/93
UT   WE7B      122,688    01/91
WA   N0AX/7    137,340    01/94
WY   WC7S      58,656     01/94

MI   N8EA      98,886     01/91
OH   K8NZ      142,500    01/91
WV   N8II      47,275     01/94

IL   AG9A      147,180    01/91
IN   NJ9C      117,312    01/91
WI   W9UP      134,408    01/94

CO   N2IC/0    225,502    01/93
IA   KF0H      89,890     08/94
KS   KM0L      34,102     01/92
MN   KS0T      79,365     01/93
MO   KM0L      96,720     01/93
ND   WB0O      121,568    01/93
NE   KV0I      133,666    01/91
SD   WD0T      174,384    01/93

VE1  VE1BN     8,378      01/94
VE2  VE2LID    30,849     01/93
VE3  VE3EJ     19,296     08/91
VE4  VE4VV     143,412    01/93
VE5  VE5SF     26,418     01/94
VE6  VE6UX     117,370    01/93
VE7  VE7QO     37,504     01/93
VE8  No Logs Submitted
VO1  VO1SF     33,536     01/93
VO2  No Logs Submitted
VY1  VY1JA     3,848      08/94
VY2  VY2SS     64,124     01/92

G    G3FXB     23,331     08/92
HH   HH2PK     56,991     01/93
HI   HI8DMX    20,984     01/91
JA   7J1AAI (K8HVT)  280  08/92
PY   PY2NY     450        01/92
VP2E VP2EXX    5,880      01/91
XE   XE1/NV1P  62,196     08/91
ZD8  ZD8Z      20,124     08/92



TOP 10 SINGLE OPERATOR SCORES:

CALL    SCORE YEAR

KM9P/4  229,015    01/93
KZ2S    226,530    01/91
N2IC/0  225,502    01/93
KM9P/4  217,198    01/91
N6UR (KR6X)   209,108    01/93
KM9P/4  205,646    01/92
N5RZ    204,050    01/92
N5RZ    202,184    01/91
N5RZ    200,136    01/94
N5RZ    194,740    01/93



MOST QSO'S:    N6UR (KR6X), 857 QSO's, 01/93
MOST MULT'S:   KM9P/4, 281 Mult's, 01/93



TOP 3 MULTI OPERATOR SCORES:

CALL   SCORE      YEAR

AA5B   284,532    01/93
K4XS   259,548    01/93
K5OJI  191,037    01/93



TOP 3 TEAM SCORES:

NAME                               SCORE     YEAR

Team Quatro
(KM9P, K4XS, WC4E, K4BAI, K0LUZ)   778,780   01/91
SCCC
(N6UR, K6LL, W6AQ, AB6FO, W9NQ)    756,237   01/93
FRC
(KZ2S, K3WW, K2TW, KA2AEV, W2GD)   654,237   01/91


>From Ken Silverman" <ken.silverman@CCMAIL.AirTouch.COM  Thu Aug 10 19:53:10 
>1995
From: Ken Silverman" <ken.silverman@CCMAIL.AirTouch.COM (Ken Silverman)
Subject: Re[2]: To Move or Not To Move
Message-ID: <9507108080.AA808088485@CCMAIL.AIRTOUCH.COM>

     
> K5GN says:  If we all use the same freq, think of the confusion when 
we all fire up ontop of one another.  

Whats so terrible about that?  

While on Dxpeditions, I often move mults to 060.  Its amazing on how 
many other people would move mults to that freq.  I worked a memorable 
amount of mults that way - just bumping into them as I was moving 
people myself.  

If I was manning the mult station (M/S), I would also pay special 
attention to those freqs since I knew people would move their mults 
there. 

"One persons garbage freq may be worth a million points to another"

Ken WM2C



>From R. Torsten Clay" <torsten@mephisto.physics.uiuc.edu  Thu Aug 10 22:24:54 
>1995
From: R. Torsten Clay" <torsten@mephisto.physics.uiuc.edu (R. Torsten Clay)
Subject: To Move or Not to Move
Message-ID: <199508102124.AA00643@mephisto.physics.uiuc.edu>

> 
>      
> > K5GN says:  If we all use the same freq, think of the confusion when 
> we all fire up ontop of one another.  
> 
etc...


Sometimes in NAQP I've heard guys setting up a move and followed them, or
listened up the band (.040/.050/.060).  Picked up some new mults that way...

Tor
n4ogw@uiuc.edu



>From Bob Schreibmaier" <k2ph@dxis.monroe.pa.us  Thu Aug 10 22:03:48 1995
From: Bob Schreibmaier" <k2ph@dxis.monroe.pa.us (Bob Schreibmaier)
Subject: K3ZO's "don't ask first" philosophy
Message-ID: <m0sgelb-0003eMC@dxis.monroe.pa.us>

> > And if someone else was sizing up the frequecny you can bet he will say
> > yes and promptly start CQing.
> > 
> Hey, be quiet;  that's my trick!  :.>

I'm pretty sure that's EVERYBODY'S trick!  8^{)

73,
Bob K2PH

-- 
+------------------  \-\-\-\  -----------------------------+
| Bob Schreibmaier K2PH | INTERNET: k2ph@dxis.monroe.pa.us |
| (a.k.a. "The QRPer")  | ICBM:     40o55'N 75o30'W        |
| Kresgeville, PA       |  Euthanize the Limbaugh Loonies. |
+----------------------------------------------------------+


>From SELBREDE%ARIA-2.EDW@mhs.elan.af.mil (Bob Selbrede)  Thu Aug 10 20:36:00 
>1995
From: SELBREDE%ARIA-2.EDW@mhs.elan.af.mil (Bob Selbrede) (Bob Selbrede)
Subject: NAQP CW Contest Records (Corrected)
References: <11CE283002A1D0D1@-SMF->
Message-ID: <72F6293001A1D0D1@-SMF->

Hi Again,

        I accidently hit the "send" button when I shouldn't have.  This posting 
has the correct records info attached.  Please disregard my earlier post.  
Sorry for the unnecessary bandwidth!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

        Listed below are the NAQP CW Contest Records for the last 11 contests.  
The start date of January 1991 was chosen because the current rules were put 
into effect at that time.  These records were compiled from published 
results and corrections should be sent to me for future updates.

73, Bob W9NQ

********************************
NAQP CW RECORDS          Compiled by Bob Selbrede, W9NQ
(Records are based upon published scores from Jan 91 through Jan 95)


SINGLE OPERATOR RECORDS:

AREA CALL      SCORE YEAR

CT   K8HVT/1   125,424    01/91
MA   K5ZD/1    90,300     08/93
ME   NY1E      81,096     01/91
NH   K1DG (WZ1R)     122,664  01/93
RI   WZ1R      70,470     01/92
VT   N4DW/1    53,040     08/93

NJ   KZ2S      226,530    01/91
NY   KA2AEV    100,648    01/91

DE   N8NA/3    76,300     01/93
MD   KN5H/3    101,436    01/93
PA   K3WW      145,555    01/91

AL   K4IQJ     118,768    01/92
FL   K4XS      158,828    01/91
GA   KM9P/4    229,015    01/93
KY   N4OGW     130,628    01/93
NC   K4PQL     131,440    01/94
SC   K0EJ/4    146,268    01/93
TN   N4ZZ    139,195    01/95
VA   K7SV/4    88,528    01/95

AR   KM5G      107,156    01/95
LA   W5WMU (K5GA)    131,253    01/95
MS   W5XX      130,092    01/93
NM   AA5B      159,495    01/92
OK   N5CG      133,570    01/91
TX   N5RZ      204,050    01/92

CA   N6UR (KR6X)     209,108  01/93
HI   AH6JF     9,490      08/94

AK   K6NA/KL7  2,847      08/91
AZ   K6LL/7    191,590    01/91
ID   W7ZRC    99,372    01/95
MT   No Logs Submitted
NV   KZ4H/7    34,122     01/91
OR   AA7NX     70,642     01/93
UT   WE7B      122,688    01/91
WA   N0AX/7    137,340    01/94
WY   WC7S      58,656     01/94

MI   N8EA      98,886     01/91
OH   K8NZ      142,500    01/91
WV   N8II      47,275     01/94

IL   AG9A      147,180    01/91
IN   NJ9C      117,312    01/91
WI   W9UP      134,408    01/94

CO   N2IC/0    225,502    01/93
IA   KF0H      89,890     08/94
KS   KM0L      34,102     01/92
MN   KS0T      79,365     01/93
MO   KM0L      96,720     01/93
ND   WB0O      121,568    01/93
NE   KV0I      133,666    01/91
SD   WD0T      174,384    01/93

VE1  VE1BN     8,378      01/94
VE2  VE2LID    30,849     01/93
VE3  VE3EJ     19,296     08/91
VE4  VE4VV     143,412    01/93
VE5  VE5SF     26,418     01/94
VE6  VE6UX     117,370    01/93
VE7  VE7QO     43,542     01/93
VE8  No Logs Submitted
VO1  VO1SF     33,536     01/93
VO2  No Logs Submitted
VY1  VY1JA     3,848      08/94
VY2  VY2SS     64,124     01/92

G    G3FXB     23,331     08/92
HH   HH2PK     56,991     01/93
HI   HI8DMX    20,984     01/91
JA   7J1AAI (K8HVT)  280  08/92
OH  OH3JF    36    01/95
PY   PY2NY     450        01/92
VP2E VP2EXX    5,880      01/91
XE   XE1/NV1P  62,196     08/91
ZD8  ZD8Z      20,124     08/92



TOP 10 SINGLE OPERATOR SCORES:

CALL    SCORE YEAR

KM9P/4  229,015    01/93
KZ2S    226,530    01/91
N2IC/0  225,502    01/93
KM9P/4  217,198    01/91
N6UR (KR6X)   209,108    01/93
KM9P/4  205,646    01/92
N5RZ    204,050    01/92
N5RZ    202,184    01/91
N5RZ    200,136    01/94
N5RZ    194,740    01/93



MOST QSO'S:    N6UR (KR6X), 857 QSO's, 01/93
MOST MULT'S:   KM9P/4, 281 Mult's, 01/93



TOP 3 MULTI OPERATOR SCORES:

CALL   SCORE      YEAR

AA5B   284,532    01/93
K4XS   259,548    01/93
K5OJI  191,037    01/93



TOP 3 TEAM SCORES:

NAME                               SCORE     YEAR

Team Quatro
(KM9P, K4XS, WC4E, K4BAI, K0LUZ)   778,780   01/91
SCCC
(N6UR, K6LL, W6AQ, AB6FO, W9NQ)    756,237   01/93
FRC
(KZ2S, K3WW, K2TW, KA2AEV, W2GD)   654,237   01/91


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