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Re: [Amps] Cleaning and lubrication of ribbon variable coil

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Cleaning and lubrication of ribbon variable coil
From: c miller <c_miller_1@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 17:33:08 +0000
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There is some background in the link below here, but basically there is no harm.

http://www.w8ji.com/dielectric_grease_vs_conductive_grease.htm

Also, silicone grease is used in both the automotive and in the communication 
industry to prevent water getting into connections that carry signals.  For RF 
at power, you do have to avoid placing it in areas that arc, like relay 
contacts.  There is no insulating effect as there is no ability for the 
lubricant to develop thickness via a 'hydroplane effect' like you have in 
high-speed rotating bearings.  The pressure of the contacts in connectors, or 
the sheer weight of the components will squeeze the film out of the way of the 
contact point.  Small amounts go a long way.

As a side note there is, in one of the threads in this group, a product that 
also has a component added to it that helps reduce the impedance bump in 
connectors by flooding the air spaces and replacing it with a more closely 
matching material to the center insulation.  It also does not interfere with 
the electrical contacts of the connection.  STUF it is called, however it is 
likely excessive for our needs in most cases.

As Rob said below, the roller/ribbon contact area would not need lube.  This 
area should self clean due to the wiping action of the roller against the 
ribbon, once your maintenance is complete.

<http://www.w8ji.com/dielectric_grease_vs_conductive_grease.htm>Chris
VE3CEA

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From: Amps <amps-bounces@contesting.com> on behalf of Jim W7RY 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 7:49:08 PM
To: amps@contesting.com <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Cleaning and lubrication of ribbon variable coil

I would think that dialectic grease is the last thing you want to use.
You don't want a dielectric here?

73, Jim W7RY


On 8/10/2022 5:01 AM, Rob Atkinson wrote:
> It sounds like what you have is a Harris edge wound coil with pinch
> rollers.  These are often found in phasors and ATUs.  When they have
> been set in one contact point for decades, freeing them up and
> returning them to new condition usually requires they be completely
> disassembled and cleaned up, (Tarn-X) and put back together with some
> dielectric grease on moving parts.  Nothing on the coil-roller contact
> surface.  When reassembling take care to get the pinch roller to grip
> with the right amount of force.
>
> 73
> Rob
> K5UJ
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Thanks and 73, Jim W7RY
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