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Re: [Amps] FW: SB220 - 10 Metre input coil adjustment

To: Tim Duffy <k3lr@k3lr.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] FW: SB220 - 10 Metre input coil adjustment
From: MU 4CX250B <4cx250b@miamioh.edu>
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 04:09:28 +0000
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I agree with Tim. Also, seems to me the grid current is too low. I’m
going by memory, but for two 3-500Zs, shouldn’t it be above 200mA?
Possibly the drive is too low?
73,
Jim w8zr

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> On Jan 1, 2022, at 9:01 PM, Tim Duffy <k3lr@k3lr.com> wrote:
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> So two 3-500Z tubes give about 50 ohms feedpoint Z. W1QJ can correct if need 
> be.
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> So take OUT the tubes - put IN a 50 ohm non inductive resister there. You 
> know where it goes?
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> Then use the RIGEXPERT and find the match on the input - get it to 1:1 (you 
> can do this easily with the core).
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> Then you will have over 1 KW on 10 meters output.
>
> 73
> Tim K3LR
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amps [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Sam Ferris
> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:54 PM
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: [Amps] FW: SB220 - 10 Metre input coil adjustment
>
> Hello Gudguyham. I am seeing an input SWR of 1.4:1 at 28.005 and it rises to 
> about 3:1 at 28.700. On the input side it is above 1.5:1 staring at 28050 
> MHz.  No input SWR dip between 28005 and 28050 – just rises all the way.  
> Have not tried beyond 28700.  As far as I know and by the looks of the amp 
> the tank coli has never been touched for tuning.  The latest trial yielded 
> about 520W at the HV setting, in comparison with the very first setting based 
> on physical depth measurements alone.
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> Thanks
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> Sam
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> From: gudguyham@aol.com <mailto:gudguyham@aol.com>  [mailto:gudguyham@aol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 2:45 PM
> To: Sam Ferris <ve5sf@sasktel.net <mailto:ve5sf@sasktel.net> >; 
> amps@contesting.com <mailto:amps@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] SB220 - 10 Metre input coil adjustment
>
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> What kind of input swr are you seeing as you make these adjustments on the 
> input coil?  10 meters is very touchy on these amps.  You also have to take 
> readings at a set output power across the band to see if there is a marked 
> increase somewhere.  This will tell you if you need to massage the 10 portion 
> of the tank coils to bring the “ sweet spot” where you want it.  You should 
> do that first off and then fine tune the input because it will make a 
> difference!!
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> On Saturday, January 1, 2022, 3:04 PM, Sam Ferris <ve5sf@sasktel.net 
> <mailto:ve5sf@sasktel.net> > wrote:
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> Wonder if anyone can tell me how sensitive/sharp the 10 metre input tuning
>
> coil tuning is on a SB220.  I am repairing an SB220 for a fellow ham and
>
> when I received the amp the central tuning slug for the 10 meter input coil
>
> (part# 40-964) was in a bag of parts … seems the tuning slug had fallen out
>
> sometime in the past.  It was noted that the 10 and 15 metre input coils
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> have the same part number so I measured the depth to the outer face of the
>
> slug to the outer edge of the 15 metre coil to get an idea of just where the
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> 10 metre coil should be set initially.  On initial tune up I was not able to
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> get more that about 450 Watts at 0.5A plate current and 110 mA grid current
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> on 10 Metres into a 1:1 SWR at 28.600 MHZ (Sweet spot for my antenna).  I
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> have tried one adjustment moving the coil slug in two turns which proved to
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> be the wrong way to go.  Have taken another look and decided to return to
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> the first setting plus about ½ turn out – then try again.  Can anyone advise
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> just how sharp the tuning on these input coils is?  Would it be best to
>
> devote the time to making a temporary face plate that I can drill an added
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> access hole through to access the tuning coil from the outside?
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> The amp functions fine on other bands with reasonable output on a set of
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> EIMAC tubes.  Other repairs to this amp have included replacement rectifier
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> board, new parasitic suppressors – old ones showed significant signs of
>
> heating, replaced broken bandswitch, soldered loose wires, general cleaning
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> and check of components.
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> Thanks
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> Sam
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> VE5SF
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