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Re: [Amps] Triode Amps

To: Jay Sturtevant <k2ztdx@gmail.com>, Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Triode Amps
From: gudguyham--- via Amps <amps@contesting.com>
Reply-to: "gudguyham@aol.com" <gudguyham@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 17:55:51 +0000 (UTC)
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Commander amps are high on my list of most popular.  They are built well and 
everything is at or beyond standard for use.  Heavy duty transformers that 
don’t go bad.  I’ve never seen a bad one.  Major problem with Commander amps is 
very poor documentation and schematics.  There were several renditions of the 
2500 but the model number or designation never changed..  Original  units used 
open frame antenna relays, later units had vacuum relays.  The TF decks are all 
basically the same.  The tubes are expensive if you need them. If you’ve been 
hoarding 3cx800’s and have a decent supply these amps are a good buy for you.  
Reliability is good on these amps.  Most problems are minor and end up being on 
the control board.  The power supply is buried under the RF deck and that 
requires the RF deck to be removed completely from the chassis.  Getting to the 
power supply is 3 times as difficult and time consuming as the repairs to it.  
Most original power supplies are still good today.  I recommend only rebuilding 
the supply when absolutely necessary.  

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On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 11:16 AM, Jay Sturtevant <k2ztdx@gmail.com> 
wrote:

AJ,
If I remember correctly, you helped me with a spare filter cap. board for my 
Commander HF 2500. Thank you!
What is your opinion of the Command Amps available on the used market today?
Jay, K2ZT 

On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, 10:33 AM Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com> wrote:

For a jaw-dropping experience, go to
https://mfjenterprises.com/collections/ameritron/products/383-0800-a7-2

$2499.95 for a 3CX800.

Makes RFParts look like a bargain at $1397.91.

The best deal may be a used Alpha 87A if the tubes are good.

73,
Steve, N2IC

On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 7:09 AM gudguyham--- via Amps <amps@contesting.com>
wrote:

> It seems that all the European amp company’s use Tetrodes.  None use
> Triodes.  All the Japanese companies went solid state.  Most US companies
> are defunct.  The last man standing in the US that still uses Triodes is
> Ameritron.  They make a full line of all Triode based amps.  They support
> the following tubes in there line up.  811a, 572b, 3-500zg, 3cx800, 3cx1200
> and 3cx1500.   There is something there for everyone.  Now if you want a
> used amplifier that opens the door to similar tubes that Ameritron uses by
> quite a few amp companies that are long out of business.  There’s some nice
> Triode amps out there that are still in good condition if you look around.
> The major problem is that “ GOOD” triode tubes are very expensive.
>
>
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>
>
> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 8:48 AM, AJ <iamfromcanadaalso@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Looking for info on manufactures of currently made QRO triode amps.
>
> Is there a list someplace with data on the net?
>
> Does anyone have a compiled list?
>
> I have looked at sparky.
>
> Thanks AJ___ VE3HJ
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