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Re: [Amps] MFJ products

To: Jim Thomson <jim.thom@telus.net>, Shon Edwards <sre.1966@gmail.com>, Amplifier Reflector <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] MFJ products
From: Jim Garland <4cx250b@miamioh.edu>
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 08:23:32 -0700
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Jim makes very good points. In my station, I have several linear and switching power supplies. Over the years I've scavenged some "crowbar" overvoltage modules from old Lambda linear supplies and use them routinely with all my large 12V supplies. These are small black plastic modules with two leads that attach to the power supply output terminals. An internal SCR in the device fires instantly when the voltage exceeds the module's threshold setting (I set it at about 15V) and shorts the power supply output, blowing a fuse and protecting the connected radios. The devices reset automatically.

I generally prefer linear DC power supplies, for a variety of reasons, even though they are heavier than switching supplies. Aside from their increased weight, their only disadvantage is that a failure of the series regulator transistors can dump the high unregulated voltage on connected equipment, which is the problem the crowbar modules fix. Switching supplies tend to be more complicated than their linear counterparts, and significantly less reliable in my experience Many are very inexpensive but also cheaply made, which is why desktop computer power supplies fail so frequently.

I try to buy lab-grade linear power supplies for my station. Consumer grade power supplies designed for the ham market are often very poorly made. (Truthfully, I can hardly stand to look at the poor workmanship inside the larger Astron linear power supplies.)  By contrast, used inexpensive Lambda and Kepco supplies are always available on auction sites and seemingly last forever. These companies also make high quality switching supplies, so if you really need the small size and weight, these may be the way to go. I have two Lambda switching supplies (12V and 24V) in my computer wiring closet (where I run a microwave access point for our local wireless internet provider) that I bought used for $20 each, and they've been running 24/7 for almost eleven years now.

73,

Jim W8ZR


On 12/5/2017 7:44 AM, Jim Thomson wrote:
##  You forgot to tell us that it was a 40 A   13.8 vdc, switching type power 
supply !
Found it on U tube, where the vdc pegged past 16 vdc.  Another fellow had his
way over 45 vdc...and fried his yaesu.    The u tube fellow says his  did not 
have
any over voltage protection built into it !   Since his was under warranty, MFJ 
will
repair it..... but not the very expensive yaesu xcvr.

##  Fuses on radios  will only protect against excess current, not excess 
voltage.   Your
surge protector on the input of the 120 vac.. feeding the MFJ switching supply, 
will  not help at all.
The issue is the lack of over voltage protection in the mfj switching supply, 
and what ever caused
it to crank out excess  vdc in the 1st place... frying everything connected to 
it.

##  Either   replace with a better quality switcher from a different 
manufacturer, or  use
an analog supply, like a  50 A  CCS astron.

##  way too many issues with the MFJ-4245  switcher imo.  if the supply bows 
up, who cares... but when the
same supply  blows up  a bunch of expensive gear connected to it, then its a 
serious issue.

Jim   VE7RF



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