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Re: [Amps] RF-KIT SS AMP

To: Herbert Schoenbohm <herbert.schoenbohm@xxxxxxxxx>, amps@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Amps] RF-KIT SS AMP
From: Zev Darack <zevdarack@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 19:07:14 +0000
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They posted imd graph image on there Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/b26.pa/permalink/1528268827191800/

Looks like 80 meter test at 1.5k using a flex radio transceiver.

73
Zev n2wks
On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 1:49 PM Herbert Schoenbohm <
herbert.schoenbohm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> As the old times in the Midwest used to say...."Never buy a pig in a poke"☺
>
>
> Herb, KV4FZ
>
>
> On 6/2/2017 1:01 PM, Jim Thomson wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 18:48:55 +0000
> > From: Bill Turner <dezrat@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: Amps group <amps@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [Amps] RF-KIT SS AMP
> >
> > <It looks pretty good on paper but the real world sometimes has
> > <unpleasant surprises in store. I wouldn't buy one until it gets
> > <reviewed by an independent third party such as QST. It's real easy to
> > <lay out $3k and before long wish you hadn't.
> >
> > <A word to the wise.
> >
> > <73, Bill W6WRT
> >
> >
> > ##  agreed,  qst..or at least a handful of experienced  tech savvy
> types,  who can
> > make meaningful  measurements..including imd, etc,  and offer a critque.
> >
> > ##  I also noticed they reduce power output by reducing the current
> limit on the power
> > supply.... vs  reducing drive.  This method, I have not heard of
> before.   One would think it
> > would flat top 1st..once it hit the current limit threshold ?   But I
> have zero experience with it.
> >
> > ##  I have zero experience  with SS amps.  My concern is the TX  IMD
> products.  Reducing
> > drive and PO is one method that would work..but eff  goes to
> hell..fast.  Diss then increases  with just
> > the typ 35% when po reduced.... while maintaining 48-50 vdc.
> >
> > ##  another method  to reduce IMD  may be to just increase the idle
> current  a bunch.
> > I have no experience with that either..except on tube amps.   But I
> suspect the eff might creep  up
> > a little, and perhaps slightly reduced  IMD.  Then again, the increased
> idle current would result in
> > a higher average dissipation.
> >
> > ##  A combo of reduced drive, and higher idle current might be the
> ticket,  but Im just speculating.
> > The faster 120mm fans could be used to handle the increased  idle
> current.  Its not like the SS amp
> > has to reside on the desk, it could sit anywhere...like in  my shop next
> door. Noise problem solved.
> >
> > Jim   VE7RF
> >
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