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Re: [Amps] SWR and amplifiers

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Subject: Re: [Amps] SWR and amplifiers
From: Manfred Mornhinweg <manfred@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 21:58:43 +0000
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On the subject of whether an amplifier will absorb power applied to its output connector - "reflected power" or otherwise:

It does not depend fundamentally on the class of operation. Instead it depends on the amplifying device used, and the circuit it's used in.

Transistors (FETs and BJTs), pentodes, and to a large extent also tetrodes, have a very high output impedance, much higher than their load impedance. That means that these devices behave as controlled current sources. The gate, base or grid drive signal defines what current they will conduct. Any RF voltage applied via the output to their drain/collector/plate will not cause a significant RF current there, so they will not absorb power.

Triodes instead have a much softer curve, in which plate voltage has a strong effect on plate current. So these do have a much lower plate impedance, and do absorb power in this situation.

But that's for the devices alone! Installed in an amplifier circuit, it's crucially important to understand how much negative feedback the amplifier has. If there is no feedback, we get the behaviour of the device proper. Instead if there is very strong negative feedback, then the amplifier tends to act as a voltage source, that is, it has very low internal impedance. In this case even a slight RF voltage applied to the output terminals will result in a large current. That is, the amplifier behaves much like a short circuit to this reverse power, and short circuits don't absorb power...

Instead if the amplifier uses a medium amount of negative feedback, it can actually have an internal output impedance that's close to the nominal load impedance. In that case the amplifier will absorb (and dissipate) a significant amount of power in this situation.

Any usual impedance matching circuitry between the amplifying device and the output port, be it broadband or tuned, will function both ways. It will not "reflect power before it reaches the device", unless that signal is on an out-of-range frequency.

If we introduce circulators and such, we open a new can of worms, but they are not commonly found in ham HF power amplifiers...

Manfred


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