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Re: [Amps] Real time tests to see if an RF transformer is saturating?

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Real time tests to see if an RF transformer is saturating?
From: Manfred Mornhinweg <manfred@ludens.cl>
Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 15:36:31 +0000
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Chris,

at that low frequency, indeed you can make the individual amps for 100 ohm and put them in parallel, or for 25 ohm and put them in series. There should be no phasing problems, at such a low frequency. But you have to make sure that both amplifiers have extremely similar responses, in terms of gain curve mainly.

The advantage of using a combiner is that it isolates one amp from the other, so the system is highly tolerant to differences between the individual amps, down to the point where one amp module can completely fail, and the other will continue limping along. Without a combiner, the failure of one module would probably cause the demise of the other too.

I have been giving some thought to your transformer. First, I suggest NOT buying that giant toroid. Bigger isn't always better. A huge core has a lot of ferrite, that causes losses! That huge toroid has an enormous space for winding, which you would never take advantage of. A smaller core in a better design can provide far better performance. So, let's start optimizing this design:

The first step is turning it into an autotransformer. The schematic you linked shows a conventional transformer, with separate primary and secondary, and both of them having one end grounded. That's very inefficient! There is no reason at all to use separate primary and secondary windings, if anyway they will be connected together! So, for a start I would change this into an autotransformer: 7 turns total, with a tap at 5 turns - or multiples of that, depending on the core used. This eliminates 36% of the wire, and strongly improves coupling, without any ill effect at all. Also transformer action is now required for only 571W instead of the full 2000W, which allows using a far smaller core, and far less total copper.

In that autotransformer, the current coming from your amplifier enters the transformer through the tap, and splits in two parts: 5/7ths of the current flows "up" through the 2 turns and into the load, while 2/7ths flows "down" through the 5 turns and returns via ground. The voltage applied to the 5 turns induces 2/5ths of that voltage in the 2 turns. So the output voltage is 7/5ths of the input voltage, while the output current is 5/7ths of the input current, the transformer works at only 2/7ths of the total power (571W), and at the output you still get the full 2000W.

There is an old adage: Engineering is a combination of material and brains. The more you use of one, the less you need of the other.

Okay. Now lets try to come up with a good transformer for those 571W. I will write here as I attempt to design it, so you can learn how to do it.

A good core shape is an RM or a pot core. They have bobbins (easy to wind), round center legs (even more easy to wind), a much shorter path length than a toroid, and they are available in suitable materials. The catch is that they aren't very large. So, let's take the largest RM core offered by FairRite, and see very dumbly how it works out.

This core is available both in the 95 and the 98 materials. They are quite similar, but I like 95 better because of its flatter loss versus temperature curve. So, the chosen core would be the 6295420121.

First let's find out how many turns we need. 2000W on 50 ohm is 316V. This core has a cross sectional area of 1.95cm². Its volume is 14.36cm³. How much power can we make it dissipate? That's a decision one has to take. I would say, 2W is fine for continuous use, some more is acceptable for intermittent use. So, at 2W to be on the safe side, 139mW/cm³ loss is acceptable. Looking at the material loss chart given by Fair-Rite, an acceptable maximum flux density at 136kHz seems to be 0.11T.

Now we can use equation 4 on my page

http://ludens.cl/Electron/Magnet.html

to calculate the required number of turns:

316V /4.44 / .000195m² / 136000Hz / 0.11T = 24.4 turns

That's the minimal requirement. Since we need multiples of 7 turns, let's use 28. So the recipe is 28 turns total, with a tap at 20 turns.

We don't need to make the 28 turns of the same wire, since the top 8 turns carry more than twice as much current as the lower 20 turns. To evenly distribute losses, it's better to distribute copper cross-section according to actual current flow.

Also it's hard or impossible to wind very thick, stiff wire on such a bobbin, and on top of that thick wire suffers badly from skin effect. It follows that you should wind this transformer with several strands of thinner wire. That invites using a single size of wire, but using more strands for the 8 turn winding than for the 20 turns.

For best coupling it would also be optimal to interleave primary and secondary layers. In this case you could first wind a layer with 10 turns, then one layer with 8 turns, then a third layer with 10 turns, and interconnect the three layers properly so that the 8 turn layer ends up at one end of the other 20 turns. This scheme is still reasonably easy to do, but doesn't allow us to use optimal copper cross sections for each winding... Anyway, let's try a modification of it:

The winding space on the bobbin is roughly 18*8mm. We can start from enamelled wire of roughly 0.7mm diameter (AWG #22), and wind 10 turns with two strands side-by-side. That's a total width of 14mm, which should fit in the 18mm bobbin space despite some slight kinks and imprecisions. Try to keep the winding centered, leaving some empty space at each side, because this reduces the risk of flashover between layers.

Then wind two or three layers of Mylar or Kapton tape, cut just a tad wider than the bobbin, so that it seals well against the bobbin sides.

Then comes the 8 turn winding. For simplicity let's use the same wire, but 4 strands instead of 2. Wind 4 turns, with the 4 strands nicely side-by-side. That will use up most of the bobbin width. Then wind one or two layers of Mylar or Kapton tape, threading the four wires through it, and then wind the other 4 turns. So this is a double-layer winding, with both ends coming out of the bobbin on the same side.

Now wind another two or three turns of Kapton or Mylar tape, and then wind the topping layer of 10 turns of 2 strands of wire. Finish with another few layers of tape.

The whole thing should be only around 5mm tall, fitting comfortably in that bobbin.

Now the windings have to be interconnected. A lot of wires will be sticking out of the bobbin... The two 10-turn windings have one end on each side of the bobbin, while the 8-turn winding has both ends on the same side. First thing is to take one end of one 10-turn winding, and the opposite end of the other 10 turn winding, and join them. This can be done on top of the Mylar tape, at a place of the bobbin that will end up in one of the core's openings. Make the connection nice and short.

Then the still free end of a 10-turn winding on the same side of the bobbin where both 8-turn ends come out, has to be joined to the CORRECT end of the 8 turn winding. The correct one is the ENDING, not the BEGINNING, assuming that you wound everything in the same direction. So, join that, fit the core (you can tape it together for now, later glue or clamp it), and the transformer is ready for testing.

I would expect this to work pretty well, although it's not entirely optimized. We could have used more strands of a thinner wire, and interleave 3 primary with 2 secondary layers, for example. Anyway it's MUCH better than winding separate primary and secondary on a stack of large toroids, let alone a giant and non-optimally shaped toroid!

Manfred

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