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Re: [Amps] Another 50MHz oscillator

To: "Martin Sole (HS0ZED)" <martin@hs0zed.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Another 50MHz oscillator
From: Vic Rosenthal <k2vco.vic@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 18:30:00 +0300
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It looks like a grid-driven push-pull amplifier. I don't see any evidence of a 
neutralization circuit, which certainly could explain the oscillations. It 
should be easy to add a traditional cross-neutralization circuit.

Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO

> On Jul 20, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Martin Sole (HS0ZED) <martin@hs0zed.com> wrote:
> 
> The recent postings about the SB220MHz high power oscillator brought to mind 
> an amp I came to own as part of a job lot of other goodies. This is a totally 
> homebuilt 50MHz amp using 2 off 4CX250B tubes in what looks to me to be a 
> rather old fashioned and overly simplified configuration. I've posted some 
> pics at http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/hs0zed/library/50MHz%20amp%20HS1WR 
> so hopefully you can see what I mean.
> 
> It's beautifully made for a homebuilt amp and clearly the builder took a lot 
> of pride in his work, right down to the silver plating, it's just that it 
> seems all wrong somehow. Signal is fed on to the grid by a link coupled 
> inductor with twin capacitor to resonate on 50MHz. A trimmer is placed 
> between the two grids. Bias is fed to the centre of this coil (not the link) 
> through a 1K resistor with a cap on the supply side. Screen volts is fed 
> through 100R resistors at each tube base.
> 
> On the output side you can see the anodes of the tubes directly connected by 
> short strap to the twin gang tuning cap the far side of which is feeding the 
> output coil which has B+ fed to the centre through a choke of about 40 turns 
> on a 3/8" rod of some description. Not sure but the brass securing screw 
> might run right through it . The bypass at the B+ end of the choke is 100pF 
> and the B+ exits the PA compartment through a large feed through made of 
> paxolin sheet with large aluminium discs, a half inch PTFE washer fills the 
> hole between the paxolin pieces. One end of the output link grounds through a 
> 100pF variable whilst the other end of the output link goes to a LPF in a 
> brass box.
> 
> I can find no reference to this configuration which I would say was built 
> around 30 years ago let alone a schematic. Anyone recognise it? It's very 
> simple and even the metering omits any sort of grid or screen current 
> monitoring!
> 
> With the output fed to a large 50R load and with no input signal any attempt 
> to swing the grid and plate tuning is met with copious thumping and banging 
> suggesting this 25kg amp is about to leap of the bench accompanied by violent 
> and hair raising excursions of the plate current meter. It's not so much 
> taking off as orbiting! NASA might be interested :(
> 
> Thoughts and suggestions please. I don't mind finishing the job off to make 
> it as it was meant to be even if it's not the ideal arrangement it's 
> deserving of some effort to tame it I think without ripping it up and 
> starting again.
> 
> 73
> Martin, HS0ZED
> 
> 
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