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Re: [Amps] Tetrode software

To: cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Tetrode software
From: Gerald Williamson via Amps <amps@contesting.com>
Reply-to: TexasRF@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 11:23:23 -0400
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Hi Kim, the older programs I have were originally written for running  on a 
DOS computer. When Windows systems came along they could be run in a DOS  
mode by going to the Start menu making the "RUN" selection and typing 
"COMMAND"  or "CMD".
 
This would bring up a DOS window and you could run .exe programs just as in 
 an old DOS computer. You could also run Basic programs by using GWbasic 
and  others just like the old DOS computers. I still use GWBASIC to debug a 
program  and then compile the program to create an .exe version that runs much 
faster  than the .BAS version.
 
Windows versions all had this capability through Windows 7. There are  
versions of Windows 7 that can operate in a 32 bit or 64 bit mode. The older 
DOS 
 .exe programs that I have are all for 32 bit operation and will not work 
at all  in a 64 bit computer. And, these programs all require use of the 
above "Command"  or "CMD" method of producing a DOS window to run.
 
I have heard that there are emulator programs that provide a DOS looking  
window for older programs but I have not personally used any as all of my  
computers at home and work are XP or Win7 32  which are set up for 32  bit 
operation.
 
I would like to convert my eme tracking programs to run in a 64 bit  
computer but can't seem to muster up the courage to learn a newer programming  
language for the job. 
 
73,
Gerald K5GW
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/1/2015 5:39:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net writes:

Can't  you fool the older software by setting it to run in a 
compatibility mode?  Or does that not work with things like this?

Kim N5OP

On  5/1/2015 12:44 PM, Gerald Williamson via Amps wrote:
> Hi All, older  software will work with Win7 32 bit or older. Will not work
> with 64  bit operating system.
>   
> I have similar issues with  my older eme tracking programs.
>   
> 73,
>  Gerald K5GW
>   
>   
>    
> In a message dated 5/1/2015 12:22:48 P.M. Central Daylight  Time,
> scott@nx7u.net writes:
>
> One  thing to keep  in mind is that this is written in Visual Basic
> 6...which is   beyond obsolete!
> The installer is very basic and I think a bit   counter-intuitive.
> 1. Extract the files from the downloaded .zip  file
> 2.  Run "Setup.exe".  The first window will be "Welcome  to the Tetrode
> installation program", click OK.
> 3. Next window  is "begin teh  installation by clicking the button
> below"...which  is the button with the  picture of the computer and a box
> of  software (told you it was old).   Often on this window I get  confused
> because the only  command-button-looking items are  "Exit" and "change
> directory", there's no  "GO" or "install"  button.
> 4. next screen asks for what Program Group you  want to  put the shortcut
> into.
> 5. then you're done.
>
>  When you  start the program, the first thing to do is OPEN a  
file...which
> is the  digitized constant-current curves of the  tetrode you are
> interested  in.  I have supplied several in  the download.  Once you
> choose  one, the Screen Bias entry  will be populated...that's the
> reference Eg2  for the  curves.  You then enter the Grid Bias, Anode Bias,
> and the   peak RF-cycle points (Max Grid Volts and Min Anode Volts), and
>  click  "Calculate".  All the information you would have gotten from  the
> Eimac EB-5 will populate.  Note in the upper right corner of  the  working
> screen is information on the limits of the digitized  data.   If you
> exceed the limits the program is  extrapolating rather than  interpolating
> and you're on your  own.
>
> As to the "Charts"  button...it doesn't do  anything.  Sorry.  The charts
> I made for  the 4CX1000A  study I did in Excel.
>
> I hope this little bit  helps.   I just downloaded it and installed it in
> an XP  window on my Win7 machine  with no problems.
>

--  

Kim Elmore, Ph.D. (Adj. Assoc. Prof., OU School of Meteorology, CCM,  PP 
SEL/MEL/Glider, N5OP, 2nd Class Radiotelegraph, GROL)

/"In  theory there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in  
practice, there is." //– Attributed to many people; it’s so true that it  
doesn’t matter who said  it./

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