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Re: [Amps] Power from Pair of Eimac 4 x 150 a / 7034?

To: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Power from Pair of Eimac 4 x 150 a / 7034?
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.qozzy.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 20:05:27 -0500
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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 11:00:32 -0500
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.qozzy.com>
To: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Power from Pair of Eimac 4 x 150 a / 7034?

He is asking about a PAIR of tubes in an amp he is looking at.
One option there is that other tubes in the 4X150/250 family can be used
that offer much better IMD

For many a $700 Chinese 8877 is not an option.

Carl
KM1H

## I stand corrected.  A local buddy built a single 4-250A  for 6m.
Another local friend  built a single 3-500Z for 6m...and wiped out
every 49 mhz cordless phone for .25 mile radius.   Both those amps
did just fine on 6m.

## My understanding was the 4CX-250B has sub par imd ?  If that’s
the case, why use it. I don’t operate 6m..so have no clue how crowded it gets
on ssb.

Jim  VE7RF

The 4CX250B is a pretty horrible SSB tube when run at its high side of "Typical Specs" even with rather obsolete ways of regulating screen and grid voltages. Using. G3SEK's method picks up about a 5dB IMD improvement.

They are still popular since they are so cheap from NOS surplus but using pulls that have screen emission really sound bad.

6M is full of CBers and others that never learned how to tune or adjust anything plus so many of the all band multi modes are pretty horrible to start with. Add garbage rigs to garbage amps, including most SS, and you decrease the resultant IMD quality even further.

Since 6M is often a very atmospherically quiet band and signals can be VERY strong, the combination of IMD and phase noise takes out big chunks and buries the weak signals. Over 90% of my 6M DXing is on CW for that reason and a lot of DX uses CW.

Carl



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