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Re: [Amps] Question for the tetrode experts

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Question for the tetrode experts
From: "Roger (K8RI)" <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 23:43:04 -0500
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On 11/7/2013 6:14 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote:

    I've finally applied full drive to my 4CX1000A amplifier. Here is what I'm
    seeing:
    I have tried two tubes, both pulls. In one case I can run about 1kW out, and
    with the other, maybe 1200. What happens when I try to push past this point
    is this: when I hold the key down for 10 seconds or so, the screen current
    starts to drop, then goes negative, and when it hits -35 mA the screen trip
    circuit kicks in. I haven't seen even a flicker of grid current.

Many possibilities. Are you tuning for maximum screen current and noy maximum output.

There should be no grid current with a 4CX1000


    The screen circuit is well-regulated at 325v, so this isn't case of runaway
    caused by increasing voltage.

There is the possibility of a component going in the screen supply.

The plate voltage stays up?

 What it seems like to me is that the screen is
    heating up and the secondary emission is rapidly increasing. Screen current
    before this happens is reasonable, 20-25 mA, so I am not exceeding its
    rating.

I take it the screen and plate voltages are the recommended?

    I have a couple more tubes to try, but I have a bad feeling that I am going
    to end up buying a new tube if I want 1500 watts from this.
    Do the experts think my diagnosis is correct?

I'm inclined to think it's a component, but no guarantee.

Tuning up with carrier, you should see a negative scree current until you are putting out a substantial output. At that point upu start tuning for maximum screen current (with in the tube ratings) and increasing drive. The 4CX1000 should be capable of the legal limit, but needs plenty of air to do that. I run a 4CX1500B and it puts out well in excess of the legal limit.

73 and good luck,

Roger (K8RI)




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