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Re: [Amps] Amplified TV Antenna

To: jerry@tr2.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Amplified TV Antenna
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 12:03:17 -0400
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 > *** And from my original question.  Is it a good bet to install this
 > well-regarded amplified TV antenna?   Bearing in mind that I will be
 > helpless if the internal amp suffers fundamental overload at HF?

Also far removed from amplifiers and their operation - more appropriate
for a DTV antennas list.

 > bearing in mind that we are getting very decent - but not 100% -
 > reception with a mere 300-ohm folded dipole "FM Antenna" tacked to the
 > wall.

A twinlead folded dipole "FM Antenna" (88-108 MHz) is not very good
on UHF TV (450-900 MHz).  It has a widely varying pattern and on some
channels appears as a resistive short across the receiver input.

If you get any where near acceptable signals with the FM dipole, all
stations are in a single direction (+/- 45 degrees or so), and all
stations are UHF (actual channel - not the virtual channel they ID),
then a two or four bay bow-tie antenna will be more than enough and
probably far more reliable than the amplified omni.  On the other
hand if you are in one of those places "between" transmitter sites
(with clusters in opposite directions) you're likely stuck with an
omni (or multiple directional) antennas.

Start your search at:
   http://www.antennaweb.org
   http://www.antennapoint.com
   http://transition.fcc.gov/mb/engineering/maps/

Your area has two high VHF channels and many UHF channels (19-47).
Fortunately, other than one distant independent, they seem to be
clustered in two directions with less than a 30 degree spread.
You would probably be best served by a small VHF/UHF dualband
log-periodic - a UHF "bow tie" antenna would be questionable for
the two VHF stations.


73,

    ... Joe, W4TV



On 7/7/2012 11:19 AM, Jerry Kaidor wrote:
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>> In any case, all of this is rather far removed from amplifiers.
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> *** And from my original question.  Is it a good bet to install this
> well-regarded amplified TV antenna?  Bearing in mind that I will be
> helpless if the internal amp suffers fundamental overload at HF?  Or
> should I just pack it off back to Amazon and install something like a
> bowtie - bearing in mind that we are getting very decent - but not 100% -
> reception with a mere 300-ohm folded dipole "FM Antenna" tacked to the
> wall.
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>                          - Jerry Kaidor, KF6VB
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>> 73,
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>>      ... Joe, W4TV
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>> On 7/7/2012 7:18 AM, W2XJ wrote:
>>> You got what you got. In most cases the antenna had to be adjusted for
>>> each channel. With DTV this is not very practical as the TV must scan
>>> the channels seen by the antenna at that instant.
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>>> On 7/7/12 7:01 AM, Bill Turner wrote:
>>>> ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
>>>> On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 22:19:21 -0400, you wrote:
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>>>>> I disagree. No one in their right mind would have used an omni to
>>>>> receive NTSC.
>>>> REPLY:
>>>> What about those hundreds of millions of portable TVs with "rabbit
>>>> ears" or
>>>> monopole verticals?
>>>>
>>>> 73, Bill W6WRT
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