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Re: [Amps] Tubes vs. Solid State (was) Expert Amps 2K-FA: Any Opinions ?

To: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Tubes vs. Solid State (was) Expert Amps 2K-FA: Any Opinions ?
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 10:19:21 -0400
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Modern SS devices in the 8877 power class are are not ready for prime time 
in linear service.

IMD, gain/bandwidth, and derating for our use are still  a problem.

Ive been playing with a couple of Freescale devices at 6M that are close to 
promising but only at 250W.

Carl
KM1H

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] Tubes vs. Solid State (was) Expert Amps 2K-FA: Any 
Opinions ?


>
>> I'm an ardent "tube" amp man for this reason. They're significantly
>> more robust and bullet proof in the longevity stakes.
>
> I don't believe that for a minute if you compare apples to apples.
>
> Most of the tube designs have been significantly "over engineered".
> That is, the tubes have excess plate dissipation for the power output
> and grids that will take a significant beating.
>
> If one looks at amplifiers like the MLA-2500 or Alpha 76 series with
> tubes that have grid dissipation in the 10 watt range and no grid
> protection ... tubes that have become unobtainium ... there are plenty
> of owners that have been reduced to tears at the cost (or lack) of
> replacements.  Even the 8877 is not exactly an "unforgiving" tube
> when used in designs that lack proper grid protection and the 3-500Z
> are not safe in an unmodified TL-822.
>
> Given proper design and protection, modern solid state devices will
> last a lifetime unlike tubes that *will* need to be replaced due to
> filament/cathode aging.  Transistor amplifiers don't suffer from
> catastrophic arcing and certainly don't represent the electrocution
> danger of tube amplifiers.
>
> There are pros and cons on both sides of the solid state vs. tube
> debate but choose the appropriate amplifying device, operate it
> within its design parameters, keep it cool and provide the proper
> protective circuits and either will provide years of trouble free
> service.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 4/24/2012 9:32 PM, Leigh Turner wrote:
>>
>> It's a pity vendors of solid-state QRO amplifiers don't offer purchasers 
>> an
>> accompanying low-cost insurance policy to cover them against the 
>> inevitable
>> day when the finals blow up for whatever reason and reduce the owner to
>> tears at the huge expense of carrying out out-of-warranty repairs.
>>
>> I'm an ardent "tube" amp man for this reason. They're significantly more
>> robust and bullet proof in the longevity stakes.
>>
>> Leigh
>> VK5KLT
>>
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