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Re: [Amps] Plate choke help.

To: "Bob K6UJ" <k6uj@pacbell.net>, "Amps@contesting.com" <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Plate choke help.
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:34:52 -0400
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Which is why I dont recommend it unless you insulate it.

Check with QRO, Ten-Tec and also see if Palstar has any left. The Ameritron 
is 1" diameter, you need 3/4" or less.

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob K6UJ" <k6uj@pacbell.net>
To: "Amps@contesting.com" <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] Plate choke help.


> Hi Carl,
>
> I'm worried now about trying the RFC-3 in my 76CA.   Rick says "it is much 
> bigger" .
>
>
> Bob
> K6UJ
>
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2012, at 6:51 AM, Carl wrote:
>
>> RFC-3 IS the Ameritron choke which is $20 direct.
>>
>> Carl
>> KM1H
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob K6UJ" <k6uj@pacbell.net>
>> To: "Amps@contesting.com" <amps@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] Plate choke help.
>>
>>
>>> Rick,
>>>
>>> I also have an Alpha 76.  My plate choke looks like it got hot down 
>>> close to the bottom which I think is the high voltage end.  I want to 
>>> replace mine too.
>>> According to KK5DR in his webpage on the 76 
>>> http://www.kk5dr.com/OLD76.pdf   he says that RF Parts No. RFC-3 is a 
>>> replacement.  I am ordering one of these and see
>>> how it works out.  It sells for $25.00 so pretty easy on the wallet, 
>>> hihi. On the caps, I would think the Alpha cap values would be the ones 
>>> to use for the coupling and bypass, but I'm no expert,  hopefully one of 
>>> the amp gurus can shed some light on it.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>> K6UJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 5:48 PM, rick darwicki wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I replaced the plate choke in an Alpha 76 with an Ameritron that is 
>>>> much bigger. First time out it arced to the nut on the back of the load 
>>>> cap. This is an older 76 with the long cap so there isn't much room.
>>>>
>>>> I replaced the choke and put a piece of glass between it and the RFC 
>>>> and a 1/4" thick pice of plexiglass between the blower and the RFC. 
>>>> Well apparently the the Plexiglass lowered the resonate freq enough 
>>>> that it acred over to the blower on 20 M. I removed the plexiglass and 
>>>> put some corona dope on the choke and all seems well. I can tune to 
>>>> full power with 100 ma grid drive on all bands.
>>>>
>>>> The interesting thing is on 160/24/28 at 100 ma grid current I am 
>>>> showing about 900 ma plate current at max forward power, 1:1 SWR. On 
>>>> the other bands max power at 100 ma grid current is at about 600 ma 
>>>> plate current. It seems like there is a lot of RF on the key on 17 M 
>>>> but the cover is off.
>>>>
>>>> What I am wondering is if I should use the same coupling cap and RFC 
>>>> bypass as Ameritron uses in the AL-80B with their choke.  They use 
>>>> 0.002 coupling and 0.001 bypass.
>>>>
>>>> I kept what was in the Alpha for RFC bypass and installed a big Russian 
>>>> 0.002 coupling cap.
>>>> At the bottom of the choke is a 0.006 (three 0.002's) to ground, a 15uh 
>>>> series choke and a 0.008 (four .002s) to ground that go to B+.
>>>>
>>>> The original Alpha arrangement was 0.004 coupling, 0.004 bypass, 15uh 
>>>> series, 0.004 bypass.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what the best thing to do is.  I wondering if the 15uh is 
>>>> necessary or screwing up the Ameritron.
>>>>
>>>> Any comment will be greatly appreiciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Rick N6PE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rick, N6PE
>>>> ==================================
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