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Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question...

To: <dave@nk7z.net>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question...
From: BJ VOUTE <fxb1982@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:38:34 -0600
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This is what I gather:
 
The AL-82 manual specifies warm up time as "approximately 30 seconds" while the 
AL-80B manual states "10 seconds".  I am guessing that the chimney type cooling 
VS the muffin fan cooling method accounts for the different warm up times?
 
W8JI states that to obtain maximum life from an 8877 tube, not to cycle the 
heater (filament) excessively.  http://www.w8ji.com/8877_failures.htm  It 
stands to reason that this would apply to a 3-500 tube as well.  
 
The QRO HF-2000 manual states:  "After prolonged operation, let the Amplifier 
run for several minutes without drive applied so the fan will cool the tubes 
before you turn the Amplifier off."
 
When I plan on operating an amplifier for 5 hours I leave it on for 5 hours.  I 
don't think turning an amplifier off and then back on after 30 minutes 
constitutes excessive cycling(subjective?), but I consider a tube filament to 
be like a light bulb and it is said that the life of a light bulb is shortened 
by cycling.
 
I as well warm up my tube amplifiers for about 5 minutes and let them cool down 
to what physically feels like idling temperature to me before shutting down.  
Whether this is necessary or to what extent the tube needs to cool down may 
likely be a topic of debate but common sense tells me it does not hurt anything.
 
I'm looking forward to more info about this topic.
 
73, BJ
k0cwo 
 
 

 

> From: dave@nk7z.net
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:30:30 -0800
> Subject: [Amps] Warm up and on time question...
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have an AL-82, my habit is to turn it on, allow it to warm for about 5
> minutes prior to use, use the amp, then turn it back off. Sometimes I
> find that I will be using the amp again within 10 or 15 minutes, maybe
> 30 minutes. Is it better to leave it on for the half hour, or turn it
> off then re power it 30 minutes later. 
> 
> Does this cause any issues over the long term? Should I just leave it
> on for the half hour? Worried about repeated heating and cooling of the
> tubes.
> 
> Dave
> NK7Z
> 
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