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Re: [Amps] load resistor

To: kc5gtt@gmail.com, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] load resistor
From: TexasRF@aol.com
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 12:10:23 EDT
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Carey, you can confirm resonance with the plate tuning capacitor. If you  
see a peak in output power while adjusting the control, there is  resonance.
 
A slight increase in C will lower the frequency of resonance and the power  
will drop. A slight decrease in C will raise the frequency of resonance and 
the  power will also drop.
 
The plate loading can be confirmed in a similar manner. Maximum power  
output happens with optimum load C. When the load C is adjusted up or down in  
value and the plate tune is adjusted for resonance, the power output will 
drop  relative to the optimum load C adjustment.
 
As load C is increased in value, the plate load impedance is lowered and  
there will be a resulting increase in plate current.
 
Strip line designs are not noted for having highest efficiency. The primary 
 cause of this is unequal rf currents flowing between the strip line and 
various  parts of the tube anode connection. The strip line is basically 
connected to  about 1/3 of the tube anode and the other 2/3 of the anode has 
very 
little  current flow.
 
There are losses in all parts of the plate circuit, including the anode  
cooler where it connects to the strip line. If most of the current flows in 
1/3  of the area, two things happen: 1> the loss resistance is 3X and 2> the 
rf  current in this area is also 3X.
 
Loss being related to current squared times resistance, then the total loss 
 becomes 3X3X3 or 27 times greater than a truly balanced anode to resonator 
rf  current flow. What could be a low loss of say 10 watts, quickly becomes 
a 270  watt loss and this shows up as lower power output and efficiency.
 
The designs using parallel resonators, such as the W6PO design, will have  
far better rf current balance and associated power output and efficiency. A  
cylindrical coaxial resonator design is the best of all but few 2m designs 
have  been published. A coaxial resonator for 144 MHz is not small!
 
There are a number of 2m GS35B amplifiers documented at 
_www.nd2x.net/base-1.html_ (http://www.nd2x.net/base-1.html)  if you  haven't 
been there. 
Operating conditions are shown and you can compare your  results.
 
Others have mentioned the measurement accuracy of both the dc metering and  
rf output power. These factors can cover quite a range of performance  
discrepancy. It may well be that your amplifier is working as well as it ever  
can!
 
73,
Gerald K5GW
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/22/2011 9:42:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
kc5gtt@gmail.com writes:

Hey  guys,

before i fire my amp back up i think i need to check the  stripline 
resonance. i have 4100 volts on the plate of the gs35. what formula  should i 
use 
to come with a resistor value?

or am i going about it  wrong. it was working before but not like it 
should. i had very poor  efficency. which we have more than covered HI. any 
suggestions? at that  voltage 1500 out with 100 watts drive was a reach. i feel 
i 
should be able to  get that with much less drive. i just dont know where to 
start

Carey,  kc5gtt
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