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Re: [Amps] Sanity check

To: vic@rakefet.com, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Sanity check
From: TexasRF@aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 20:32:52 EST
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That is an interesting plate choke variation. Can the idea be extended to  
include the lower bands as well? If so, the plate choke would be at a 
nominal 50  ohm point on all bands and exert very little influence on plate 
circuit  tuning.
 
I am wondering if .141 semi-rigid coax would work for making up the low  
band inductors.
 
73,
Gerald K5GW
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/3/2010 4:55:03 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
vic@rakefet.com writes:

I am  doing something dumb, but I can't figure out what.

My new amp is a pair  of 813's, class C. On 20 meters, it loads to 500 ma 
at 2050 volts and  
produces about 800 watts output. The tuning capacitor and tank inductance  
are close to the 
calculated values (from GM3SEK's spreadsheet). With power  off I connected 
a 2050 ohm 
resistor -- (2050v x 0.5a)/2 -- from the plates  to ground and used my MFJ 
analyzer 
connected to the output to get a 1:1  SWR at the same point that it tunes 
up under power.

Everything is  perfect on 20 meters. But on 160, it's not.

When I used a tank coil of  the calculated inductance, the loading was much 
too heavy with 
a practical  value of output capacitance. I added several turns to the 
coil. Now it loads  
properly, but the tuning capacity is considerably less than the calculated  
value. Also, I 
get only 750 watts with the same input. I expected that it  would be more 
efficient on 160 
than 20.

On 10 and 15 meters, the  tuning capacity required for a match is 
considerably more than 
the  calculated values (and of course the inductance is lower). I haven't 
checked  the 
efficiency yet.

Here is one fact that might be related: instead  of the usual RF choke of 
about 200 uh, 
I've made the 10-20 meter tank coil  out of tubing with a wire through the 
center. The wire 
is connected to the  plate side of the blocking capacitor. After it exits 
the tubing it 
goes to  a large 1.7 mh choke.

The idea (courtesy WC6W) is that the inner  conductor of the coaxial tank 
coil will be 
close to ground potential on  20-10 meters, so it's possible to use a choke 
that will do a 
good job on  160 meters without worrying about series resonances in or near 
the higher  bands.

But I have a feeling the choke has become part of the tank  circuit!

Any thoughts? Should I just order a choke from Ameritron and  use the 
conventional system? 
Or is something else going on?
-- 
Vic,  K2VCO
Fresno  CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
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