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Re: [Amps] Insulation tester

To: donroden@hiwaay.net, Amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Insulation tester
From: TexasRF@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 06:31:15 EST
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Hi Don, the center tap of these transformers are connected to the case and  
therefore would be grounded. If you design your tester so that it operates 
with  the output voltage referenced to ground, then your transformer will 
work just  fine.
 
I have used microwave oven transformers like that with good results. They  
have one side of the hv winding connected to the core which is grounded.
 
In your case, either a half wave circuit using only one leg of the  
secondary or a full wave circuit using both legs can be used. You can also have 
 
separate rectifiers for positive and negative test voltages and that could be  
useful. Of course you can also test components between the two output  
polarities, you just have to be careful that the component has no path to 
ground 
 while testing.
 
The other needed part will be a way to vary the voltage and a small Variac  
would work well for that.
 
Current limiting is essential for many tests as some insulators are damaged 
 by even a very small current flow. I don't want to discuss how I know  
that!
 
An old fashioned VOM with a 5KV or higher dc scale makes a great current  
limiter due to the high resistance of the meter. A 20,000 ohms per volt  
instrument has a 50 microampere movement and at full scale, 5000vdc, 50  
microamperes of current flows through an internal resistance of 100  megohms.
 
For test purposes, you would never allow full scale current flow, but just  
enough to see the meter move above zero.
 
73,
Gerald K5GW
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/25/2010 8:49:43 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
donroden@hiwaay.net writes:

Has  anyone used neon transformers to build an insulation tester  (  Megger 
 ).

I need something to go to around 10KV for testing  capacitors ( type 291 )
under a high voltage /low current  condition.

Don  W4DNR
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