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Re: [Amps] liquid cooling

To: larry@w7iuv.com, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] liquid cooling
From: TexasRF@aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:15:45 EDT
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Larry, I wonder why your aversion to using water? 
 
73,
Gerald K5GW
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/5/2010 11:07:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
larry@w7iuv.com writes:

The  recent discussion on water cooling amp tubes got me thinking. Again. 
(not  a good thing)

Basically I would like to play with liquid cooling but I  can't/won't use 
water. While I was still working, I worked on a  multi-kilowatt amplifier 
that was oil cooled. It went into the avionics  bay of an aircraft where 
all the rest of the equipment was also oil  cooled.

As I recall, the oil looked and felt like mineral oil, but I'm  sure the 
military wouldn't use something that common and cheap and low  flash 
point. At the time, I pulled up the MSDS for the oil but no longer  have 
it and of course I can't remember the numbers.

K8CU talks  about using ATF for cooling liquid  here:

http://www.realhamradio.com/liquid-cooling.htm

Unfortunately,  there is no indication in the article that he or anyone 
else actually used  ATF. Now ATF contains sulphur compounds that eat 
silver plating and cannot  normally be used in things like dummy loads 
because of this property.  However, a set of heat exchangers used for 
tube cooling would not have  that problem.

K8CU also mentions mineral oil and says it is not  suitable due to the 
low flash point. I have to wonder about that because  for one I would 
hope nothing in a system I would build would ever get hot  enough to 
worry about flash point and two, it probably won't flash anyway  due it 
being in a closed system with little or no free  air/oxygen.

What I'm looking for is someone who has actually done  liquid cooling 
with something other than water. No, I have no interest in  "flat earth" 
theories, or what you think you remember from a  thermodynamics class you 
sat through 40 years ago. I want actual test  results and operational 
data from real world applications.

73,  Larry

Larry - W7IUV
DN07dg - central  WA
http://w7iuv.com
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