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Re: [Amps] Good amp to buy maybe build..

To: Carl <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Good amp to buy maybe build..
From: Roger <sub1@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:06:11 -0500
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Carl wrote:
> For the amp builder with little or no experience start off simple. Dont 
> waste money on expensive and fragile tubes such as the 8877 at this stage. 
> Stay away from apparent bargains in Class C designed Russian military 
> surplus that have been hyped by sellers for SSB use only to dump on the 
> unsuspecting; IMD is in the range of some of the worse US 50-60's 
> technology.
>
> Contrary to an opinion or two there is nothing wrong with GG versions of the 
> 813 and 4-400A. IMD is in the mid -30's if you quit trying to get super 
> power out of a pair. Go for 700-750W from 2 x 813 and 1000-1200W from 2 x 
> 4-400A. Up to 4 x 813's can be used and they can be mounted horizontal in 
> similar alignment as 572B's and 811A's. They are dirt cheap as well as 
> sockets, easy to cool and very tolerant of mistuning. The fancy protective 
> circuitry is a line fuse.
>   
The 813 is one of my favorites even if the 4-400's just look nicer <:-)) 
The 813's were my second amp project, right after the 6C21 back in the 
old days.  Speaking of IM and old tech.  When I put the second 6C21 on 
(after vaporizing the plate in the first) a ham about 4 doors down and 
across the street called and asked what I was running. Guess it durn 
near blew his receiver off the desk as I was only about 5 KHz above him 
on 40. Although less power, the 813 amp was much cleaner. Much cleaner 
on the air and construction too.<:-)) Of course my first transmitter was 
a pair of 6L6's build up on the corner of an old TV chassis. I used the 
power supply from the TV. Man that thing was big and ugly for 75 watts. 
<:-))
> At those voltages (2000-2500) and power, air variables are fine as are the 
> common hamfest/fleabay ceramic bandswitches which are easily reconfigurable 
> in many cases.
>
> Start the metal by mocking up dimensions to figure what is needed. The PS 
> can be included or seperate depending on the size of the iron you scrounge. 
> Cheap cabinets are all over hamfests and Fleabay.
I have a number of those cabinets I might use some day... As well as 
several SX101 incarnations, and several (3 I think HT-32 incarnations 
that I might rebuild some day.
>  Be it a generic Bud style, 
> from an old Hallicrafters RX/TX/Amp or 50-60's HP test equipment.  Or have a 
> local sheet metal house bend up a clamshell style as used in most commercial 
> amps. Hint: make the base from steel and the top aluminum if the tank 
> circuit will be close to any metal.
>
> Stay away from a full size chassis if possible as it wastes a lot of space. 
> Hammond has a wide range of chassis and prices are reasonable especially for 
> smaller sizes. READ a lot. Check out how all the commercial outfuts stuff 
> everything together and you will find its far more efficient and cost 
> effective than any ARRL or other ham published amp. Those tend to be mostly 
> ego builders to see how cute and complicated the authors can make it.
>   
Yup, the sub chassis is a great idea and it also makes the construction 
easier as the builder can tackle one part of the project at a time. I've 
never seen a large project yet that couldn't be broken down into steps.
> The above just skimmed the subject but its easy to see that complicated and 
> budget busting isnt a requirement.
>   
Some good points.

73

Roger (K8RI)
> Carl
> KM1H 
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