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Re: [Amps] [ham_amplifiers] KM1H, CARL SAID: Toll_Free puts it in perse

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Subject: Re: [Amps] [ham_amplifiers] KM1H, CARL SAID: Toll_Free puts it in persepective:
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:12:51 -0400
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Its also depleting the ozone and wasting carbon credits.
Since we are already in looney tune land with this thread it might as well 
as encompass other loonies.

Carl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <gudguyham@aol.com>
To: <ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com>; <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] [ham_amplifiers] KM1H,CARL SAID: Toll_Free puts it in 
persepective:


> one may be able to have the suppressor coaxed into toasting morning toast.
>
>
> the Ni-Cr ribbon in his
> uppressor began to glow like an electrical heater element
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R L Measures <r@somis.org>
> To: ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:28 pm
> Subject: Re: [ham_amplifiers] KM1H, CARL SAID: Toll_Free puts it in 
> persepective:
>
>
>
>
> n Aug 29, 2009, at 8:19 AM, 1800 Toll Free wrote:
>>
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:34:45 -0700, R L Measures <r@somis.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:04 PM, 1800 Toll Free wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> >> Your dancing is slowing down Rich. First you say a 3CX-3000 was
> >> >> used when
> >> >> the solde melted and in a blink you mention a 3-500Z.
> >> >
> >> > ••• VHF suppressors that don't get hot at 28MHz are not doing
> a very
> >> > good job of suppressing VHF.
> >>
> >> I find that statement bullshit, Rich.
> >>
> >
> > ••• 28MHz is on the verge of being VHF. Please tell us how to
> > design a circuit that has little or no attentation at 28MHz - which
> > has high attenuation at 30MHz?
>
> I'm not going to be baited into this conversation.
>
>
> ••  Translation:  oops
>> BUT, suffice to say, I haven't had a parasitic suppressor get
> irridescent
> on me.
>
> •••  Nor have I.  "Irridescent" (iridescent) is not the right word
> ere Shane since there is no display of lustrous, rainbowlike
> olors.20 According to James Day, W6DF, the Ni-Cr ribbon in his
> uppressor began to glow like an electrical heater element during an
> 0 test at 28MHz. This should not be surprising considering that Ni-
> r is not a good RF conductor and that there is considerable tank
> irculating I that passes back through a G-G 3cx3000A7's C-anode-grid
> uring 28MHz operation. However, for 2, 3-500Z low VHF-Q parasitic
> uppressors, silver-solder melting  at the soldered connections
> uring 28MHz A0 operation is about as hot as they get - which is why
> i-Cr L-supp leads need to be wrapped 3/4 turn before silver-
> oldering them.
>
> I HIGHLY doubt the Dick has, either.
>
> •••  whose?
>
> BUT, who says the suppressor has to START it's suppression at 30 mhz?
>
> •••  no one.  VHF suppressors need to be lossy at VHF, but since they
> re basically low-Q devices, they can not be made to suddenly roll
> ff like a mechanical IF filter's bandpass.
>
> >>
> >> On my monoband amps (which any idiot can create, right?
> >>
> >
> > ••• no
>
> Carcia would beg to differ with you. I've been told this many times in
> the past.
>
> •••  there are apparently more idiots in the world than you have met
> hane.
> cheers
> Richard L Measures, AG6K, 805.386.3734
> @somis.org
>
>
>
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