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Re: [Amps] Plate Bypass Capacitor

To: amps@contesting.com, Manfred Mornhinweg <manfred@ludens.cl>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Plate Bypass Capacitor
From: Glen Zook <gzook@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:52:54 -0700 (PDT)
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You may be thinking of the 6293 which is a special version of the 6146 that was 
made for pulse modulator service.  The 6293 can take up to 3000 volts on the 
plate.

Also, the 6293 is an excellent replacement for the 6146 and 6146A/8298 and will 
generally last between 5 times and 10 times longer than the 6146 and 6146A/8298 
when run using the same parameters.  The prices for the 6293 are usually about 
the same as for the 6146 and 6146A/8298 from the various tube "sellers" on the 
Internet.

Also, the 6146 and 6146A/8298 are rated at 600 volts maximum when used in plate 
modulated AM service.

The 6146B/8298A is really a different tube from the 6146 and 6146A/8298.  The 
6146B/8298A is rated at 120 watts input for Class C in CW and FM service, at 
120 watts input for AB-1 and AB-2 (for SSB service), and at 90 watts input for 
Class C plate modulated service.

Glen, K9STH

Website:  http://k9sth.com


--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Manfred Mornhinweg <manfred@ludens.cl> wrote:


Not so...! I just checked datasheets for the 6146 (no suffix), for the> 6146A 
and the 6146B, from RCA and GE. They all agree on the plate voltages: 600V in 
CCS, and 750V in ICAS!
 
The 400V rating in the RCA 6146 datasheet is only valid for a special 
situation: Audio amplifiers which have the screen grid directly connected to 
the plate!
 
But now it's time for me to admit a mistake too: Somehow I was thinking that 
the 6146 series was rated for up to a kilovolt on the plate. That might be 
because in my young hotgun years I used to run them that way.  With good 
cooling, and watching the plates, I got 160 to 180W PEP clean output in SSB 
from a pair of 6146B, ran from a power supply that gave 950V at no load, and of 
course dropped some at full load. The tubes are still good today! That speaks 
of their quality. I didn't use a speech processor, though. Using one might have 
melted the tubes!


      
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