....So stuff like this doesn't get hosted in the European Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics, otherwise known as the EU of which we are now sadly a
part. We just host it in Russia instead. Or China..Or Brazil..etc ... or
even on a .nu domain. Perhaps Piratebay.org in its ever-changing incarnation
will host links to heathkit manuals held as p2p torrents somewhere
There'll be some way around it if we can be bothered
cheers
Dave G0OIL
--- On Tue, 17/3/09, Bob Nielsen <n7xy@clearwire.net> wrote:
From: Bob Nielsen <n7xy@clearwire.net>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Heathkit SB220 manual
To: "amps" <amps@contesting.com>
Date: Tuesday, 17 March, 2009, 10:12 PM
IIRC, the US extension of copyrights was partially done because of
changes to EU copyright laws which did the same thing, although I
don't know if they are exactly the same.
On Mar 17, 2009, at 1:30 PM, DAVE WHITE wrote:
> I have a copy of the SB220 manual on PDF that I'm happy to send to
> anyone - if nothing else just to spite the pimp who wants to make
> money from a 40 year old back catalog to which he did not contribute
>
> As stated elsewhere, they're also on websites in the free world
>
> cheers
> Dave G0OIL
>
> --- On Tue, 17/3/09, Jeff Carter <amps@hidden-valley.com> wrote:
> From: Jeff Carter <amps@hidden-valley.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Heathkit SB220 manual
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Date: Tuesday, 17 March, 2009, 6:52 PM
>
> I totally concur.
>
> I think we as hams might be slightly guilty of contributing to the
> problem, though. In years past, these manuals have been listed on
> eBay either bound or on CD, and rather than do a comprehensive search
> for a free copy, some folks have just paid the money.
>
> Somewhere along the line, someone noticed, and decided to buy the IP
> rights in order to become the recipient of what must have looked like
> a dandy income stream. They must have figured that there was a high
> demand for these things for them to be listed constantly like they
> are/were.
>
> I think we can count on essential ham cheapness to make certain that
> this venture is never profitable. Most hams are Internet savvy at
> this point, although I'm not sure who among us was buying the eBay
> manuals...or why. Knowing hams, it had to be a minority of folks who
> assumed without looking that nobody still had the manuals and ponied
> up the money for them. Even then, for every CD sold, the average ham
> would have made dozens of copies to hand out.
>
> The eBay vendors were likely thinking that if anybody could be induced
> to buy for any reason, it was worth the time to download something
> free, burn it on a 10 cent CD blank, and list it at 99 cents with a $5
> shipping and handling charge. With no cost but the time and the CD
> blank, it was essentially all profit. I found it distasteful as a
> practice, but like SPAM, there's always a bottom feeder to send it and
> a clueless P.T. Barnum-style idiot ready to be separated from his
> money. We'll never know what the current IP holder paid, but I
can't
> imagine they'll ever make it back. If they're publicly listed,
> it'd
> likely be a great stock to short all the way into the ground.
>
> Jeff/KD4RBG
>
>
>
> ---- Original message ----
>> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:16:29 -0500
>> From: "KB0NLY" <kb0nly@mchsi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] Heathkit SB220 manual
>> To: <amps@contesting.com>
>>
>> Well I think its a tad ridiculous to be upholding a copyright on a
>> manual
>> for a 40-50 year old piece of equipment! For crying out loud, I
>> can go to
>> any of the manufacturers and download a manual for a brand new
>> piece of
>> equipment!
>>
>> All I know is that I'm not about to pay $20-$30 for a manual that
> should be
>> free by now.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Scott
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