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Re: [Amps] SB-220's, 3-500's, some history

To: amps@contesting.com, KB0NLY <kb0nly@mchsi.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] SB-220's, 3-500's, some history
From: DAVE WHITE <mausoptik@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 02:57:23 +0000 (GMT)
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.....and of course you have to pay about 5 percent Paypal fees...in addition to 
your ebay listing fee and your ebay final value fee.  Paypal is, of course, 
owned by guess who?  Ebay.

Businesses come and go.  Ones that are successful get greedy and sooner or 
later something else will come along that will offer a better forum for 
selling.  At that time Ebay will have to offer a better deal or go out of 
business.  The sooner that happens, the better from my point of view as the 
words "ebay" and "customer service" are mutually exclusive in my experience.

The same will happen to greedy monopolists like Microsoft eventually too.

To be perfectly honest, I find it hard to get hold of components for building 
amps at a decent price these days.  Fleamarkets like Friedrichshafen and Dayton 
were always the best but I see less stuff of interest these days and I'm glad 
I've got a good stock of junk.

cheers
Dave G0OIL

--- On Sun, 8/2/09, KB0NLY <kb0nly@mchsi.com> wrote:
From: KB0NLY <kb0nly@mchsi.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] SB-220's, 3-500's, some history
To: amps@contesting.com
Date: Sunday, 8 February, 2009, 12:10 AM

As an avid user of eBay, both buyer and seller, i had to comment on this...

There is a reason why most sellers have made PayPal mandatory, me included. 
After they changed the feedback system and cut the fingers off sellers by 
removing our ability to leave negative feedback for deadbeat bidders or just 
plain jerks most of us put the requirement that you must have a PayPal 
account to bid.  This removes nearly all of the deadbeats, it takes only a 
few minutes to create a fake account on eBay, but you need valid info to 
create a PayPal account, so it keeps nearly all of the deadbeats out.

I will side with Roger in that they pretty much ruined a useful website... 
Now that these people can make a fake account and ruin seller's reputations

just for fun it's getting hard to keep sellers with the gear we want on 
there.  I see a lot of guys posting ads on QTH that say they are no longer 
using eBay, etc.  It used to be you received three NPB's, non-paying bidder

strikes, and you were kicked off eBay.  I see now in the buyer requirements 
setting on my auctions that goes as high as 5 now!!  So they are allowing 5 
NPB's before kicking someone off??  That's crazy.  Don't even get
me started 
on the recent experiences i have had with filing NPB's only to get negative

feedback after eBay ruled in my favor, then i had to fight eBay to remove 
the feedback that was left.  Why should the buyer be allowed to leave me a 
negative when they didn't pay and lost the arbitration and received an
NPB?? 
Rediculous....

73,

Scott, KBØNLY


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger" <sub1@rogerhalstead.com>
Cc: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] SB-220's, 3-500's, some history


>
>
> Carl wrote:
>> Since PayPal is the playpen bully they do whatever they want and have
>> absolutely no regulatory oversight.
>>
>
> When they made Paypal mandatory on most items AND changed the feedback
> system I pretty much quit using Ebay. The only things left on there are
> businesses where I can use my own CC.  To me they have pretty much
> reuined what used to be a very handy system.
>
> 73
>
> Roger (K8RI)
>> The Ebay seller disclaimers mean absolutely nothing in the case of a
>> PayPal dispute. An Ebay dispute and feedback is a seperate process.
>>
>> Carl
>> KM1H
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <Gudguyham@aol.com>
>> To: <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>; <amps@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] SB-220's, 3-500's, some history
>>
>>
>>
>>> Carl, I know what you mean about PAYPAL and EBAY and the
>>> "substantially not
>>> as advertised", but who is paypal to decide something they
know
>>> nothing
>>> about.  It always seems that EBAY sellers put in the disclaimer
and
>>> verbage  that
>>> can worm them out of liability.   Not to say it is impossible to 
win
>>> a
>>> dispute, but I hat fighting.
>>> Lou
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>>>
>>>
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