Hi John,
Hotmail used to be well known for releasing all their email addresses to
the wild. I don't know how they are today. I have managed to keep quite
a few email addresses completely hidden from the world and I use them
every day. The key is that you nor anyone you send email to lets them
out. That is very difficult to do. I have made new email addresses for
ones I have had to delete MANY times on this list alone. The problem is
probably going to be ignored unless the entire contesting.com list
population gets up in arms about it. Doubt that is going to happen ;)
73, Tony W4ZT
KA9OFM John Garrett wrote:
> I think you are right about the posting of addresses by the archives.
> However, I don't think that your email address is safe from spam as I have
> opened many hotmail accounts because of spam and had some of them receive
> spam within just a few minutes. I don't know how email harvest programs work
> but I am sure there is a way to close off most of the unwanted email. I
> think you are right that once your email address gets out there to the spam
> people it is ruined forever. It is just too bad that the ISP (Internet
> Service Provider) does not monitor it more closely - I think that they would
> certainly have someway to see what is coming off their own system.
> Also some email preferences do allow you to set it up so you only receive
> approved email, but if you are like me you want your email open so you get
> email from people you might not have on your approved list.
> Guess I will just have to go on deleting a bunch of email every day - It is
> flustrating at times. One weekend I received over 300 junk emails.
>
> Regards,
> John KA9OFM
>
>
> On 8/9/06, Tony King - W4ZT <amps071806@w4zt.com> wrote:
>> Regarding SPAM to people on this list...
>>
>> I have received and continue to receive SPAM to the email address (past
>> and present) that I use exclusively on this list. The email is NOT
>> coming from any address that is being used on this list, yet it is
>> coming directly to my specific amps email address. That is why I change
>> the email address frequently that I use here and block the old one.
>>
>> Want to know why?
>>
>> The reason why is because Contesting Dot Com publishes ALL of our email
>> addresses IN THE CLEAR on the archive. The spammers collect these email
>> addresses from the archive without having to sign in or do ANYTHING
>> except grab them and use them. Don't believe me? Do a Google search on
>> your specific email address you use on this list. See that your postings
>> including email addresses are all there.
>>
>> I personally think it is up to the folks at Contesting Dot Com to take
>> full responsibility for this problem and do the right thing by taking
>> steps to insure that list members addresses and preferably ALL HEADERS
>> are not published in the wild where they can be abused by unnamed and
>> unreachable SPAMMERS. One option is to REQUIRE signing in by registered
>> users only to view the archives.
>>
>> My latest SPAM to this address had the following pertinent headers is
>> posted below. Note that once your email address is out in the wild, it
>> can NEVER be fixed. That email address is ruined forever. The only way
>> to quit receiving that email is to change your address.
>>
>> Administrator(s), do not be so quick to blame the individuals on this
>> list for a problem that you have created yourself.
>>
>> Kindest regards,
>> Tony King, W4ZT
>>
>> X-Iris-Envelope-Recipient: <amps071806@w4zt.com>
>> X-Iris-Envelope-Sender: <bar_wagner_esq@yahoo.com>
>> X-Iris-Host: 3640421945/web55811.mail.re3.yahoo.com
>> Received: from web55811.mail.re3.yahoo.com (HELO
>> web55811.mail.re3.yahoo.com) (216.252.110.57) by iris1.directnic.com
>> (iris/0.180:341928) with SMTP for <amps071806@w4zt.com> (rule 341928); 3
>> Aug 2006 09:42:47 +0000
>> Return-Path: bar_wagner_esq@yahoo.com
>> Received: (qmail 98847 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2006 09:42:45 -0000
>> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024;
>> d=yahoo.com;
>>
>> h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding;
>>
>> b=by4SdQJ154FJI47GwBfQIULtDnac7mkTHq/LVOakjAKkDS7Vtf4ujFYGUGI7Ol+tvV/6NeWJaeeT8jO8b5IxmUfdKVIhq7FnrvMOcwQ7L7QJYCFiiFnssO3LOvqVSuLwyQuggB87pWPK2JSQ/Mcm4YsnqT+45I9tKJ0ZZggxZY8=
>> ;
>> Message-ID: <20060803094245.98845.qmail@web55811.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
>> Received: from [213.185.106.75] by web55811.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP;
>> Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:42:45 PDT
>> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 02:42:45 -0700 (PDT)
>> Received-SPF: none (web55811.mail.re3.yahoo.com: domain of
>> bar_wagner_esq@yahoo.com does not designate permitted sender hosts)
>> From: Peter Wagner <bar_wagner_esq@yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: wagner_esq@sify.com
>> Subject: Atten:: Tony King
>> To: amps071806@w4zt.com
>>
>> Do a trace route to the source address 213.185.106.75 and you get this:
>> fus-rt004-fe-0-0-v3.its-dvb.globalconnex.net (80.255.48.4)
>>
>>
>>
>> Administrator wrote:
>>> I have recently received complaints from subscribers to this list of
>>> spam from the list. On examining the alleged spam emails, it appears
>>> that one or more list subscribers have harvested e-mail addresses and
>>> are CCing each of the harvested addresses in addition to posting to
>>> the list. This must stop immediately!
>>>
>>> Anyone found to be engaging in this practice will be unsubscribed
>>> immediately and without further notice.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> ... Administrator amps@contesting.com
>>>
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