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Re: [Amps] The ongoing 4CX250B verbage!

To: "'garyschafer@comcast.net'" <garyschafer@comcast.net>,'Ian White GM3SEK' <gm3sek@ifwtech.co.uk>, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] The ongoing 4CX250B verbage!
From: Steve Katz <stevek@jmr.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 09:54:04 -0700
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>
Heck, we use the DGYA system of evaluating such things.

There's DGYA30, which is "Don't get yelled at, by stations 30 kHz away."
DGYA5 is much cleaner (Don't get yelled at, by stations 5 kHz away).

Oh wait, that's a contesting protocol.  Wrong forum.

-WB2WIK/6


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Schafer [mailto:garyschafer@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:48 AM
To: 'Ian White GM3SEK'; amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] The ongoing 4CX250B verbage!




> -----Original Message-----
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of Ian White GM3SEK


> By changing to the common US convention of "dB below PEP", that figure
> instantly "improves" to -36dB  :-)

I wish all would stay with your convention (the proper way) of dB below a
single tone of two tones when expressing IMD. :>)

After all, even if you note that the IMD figure is below PEP, it is still
incorrect because only one product (1/2) of the IMD is being related to PEP.

PEP is the result of the sum of two tones or carriers. 
If for example 3rd order IMD is to be referenced to PEP it should include
the sum of both 3rd order products, the sum and difference products and not
just one of those as is commonly done. That would give the same difference
as the proper way "dB below a single tone of two tones".

Bill Orr states this in his handbook.

73
Gary  K4FMX


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