And if the microphone and/or keyboard wasn't operating while the ship is
sinking, I'll put my trust in the ship radio op who can send ...---...
by scratching two pieces of wire together.
Enough said.
Don
N8DE
Will Matney wrote:
> Bill,
>
> No matter what though, it's still descrimination in my eyes, and I wont
> support it. To me, why make the girl who was a quadraplegic even do morse if
> she can talk and has the knowledge in her head? Why force her to do it when
> it was hard on her, remember she had to stop? That's just flat wrong as I see
> it even though she wanted to do it so no body would pitty her. I know how it
> is because I'm handicapped myself. I've not been able to walk now for about 5
> years and I hate when folks pitty me. There's absolutely no use for morse
> code these days as communication to different countries and languages can be
> done other easier ways. Back in the times of telegraph and spark gap
> transmitters, before the phone, and before the phone line was laid across the
> Atlantic, yes I could see it as it was needed to communicate to others, and
> with different languages. At the time he tested, and now, I could not and can
> not see it. When somone has just as much, or in some cases more, knowledge in
th
> eir noggen than some with extra class licenses, and they are rejected
> because of morse code whether they are handicapped or just dont flat want to
> learn it, that's descrimination. It's just as bad as saying because your
> black, red, yellow, or white you cant qualify even though you know whats
> really needed in your head. I'd about bet if someone had the money to take it
> to the Supreme Court, they'd have to throw it out of the requirements. That
> requirement was written when Mathuzla was around and the sticklers just
> absolutely dont want to do away with it for an ego thing where they think
> holding that slip of paper makes them somewhat better than the ones below
> them. I've seen that happen time and time again in this hobby and it's
> unforgivable. It's to me like the haves' and have nots where the rich look
> down their nose at the poor folks because they've not gained their wealth in
> one way or the other. When the license is based on what one knows in theory
> and law, then the pl
ayi
> ng ground will be level. That's just my thoughts on the subject. Now, I'm
> gonna get off this off topic subject as it really is plus I don't want to
> stirr the pot ; )
>
> Best,
>
> Will
>
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
> On 8/31/05 at 12:56 PM Bill Coleman N2BC wrote:
>
>
>>Sorry to continue this off-topic thread, but Will, you are wrong. There
>>has long been a process to accommodate physical handicaps. For quite a
>>while, the FCC would accept a doctor's statement (on the appropriate form
>>of
>>course) to completely exempt the applicant from CW.
>>
>>I have personally administered the CW exam to a number of handicapped
>>folks.
>>One young lady refused to go for the FCC waiver, insisting she wanted to
>>be
>>treated like everyone else. She passed her Extra exams (every element,
>>including 20WPM) in one sitting. She was a quadriplegic but had enough
>>mobility in one hand to tap a pencil on a PC keyboard. The accommodation
>>we
>>made was to stop the code test when she indicated, then she would type out
>>the copy from memory. The only other accommodation we made was to fill
>>out
>>the answer sheet for her - she said that was an accommodation for US as it
>>made the process quicker! Quite a young lady.
>>
>>There has not been a Morse sending requirement for years. I suppose if
>>'years ago', means decades ago prior to the VE process, I guess your
>>friend
>>would have been faced with a sending exam.
>>
>>But is seems to me if a quadriplegic can pass 20WPM, somebody with a bit
>>of
>>a hand tremor could do 5WPM with a perfectly permissible accommodation.
>>
>>In the end... if a person wants the license bad enough, a little thing
>>like
>>5WPM or 20WPM is easy to overcome. Little.... in the face of living
>>one's
>>life in a wheelchair.
>>
>>73, Bill N2BC
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Will Matney" <craxd1@verizon.net>
>>To: <amps@contesting.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:19 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Amps] Palstar DL5K 5KW load
>>
>>
>>
>>>Theo,
>>>
>>>Joking around aside (I know Hal does run legal), the FCC does in fact
>>>descriminate over how many WPM one can do. That's the very reason I
>>>dropped my license years ago after having it a whole 2 years at the
>>
>>most.
>>
>>>A friend of mine had a nervous condition, where he always shook just a
>>>small amount. Anyhow, he couldn't never use his hand to even get 5 WPM!
>>
>>By
>>
>>>this, the FCC says, no you cant have a license. Even though mind you, he
>>>was just as smart as myself and deserved it. Just like now, even though
>>>some is smart enough by studying to pass the extra exam, if they cant
>>
>>pass
>>
>>>the code, they cant get the license. That's nothing but pure blatent
>>>descrimination. The license should be given by what one knows in their
>>>noggen, not how fast ones finger will move.
>>>
>>>One of these days, maybe, if those requirements are finally quashed,
>>
>>I'll
>>
>>>re-license, but not until then. To me, it's a shame there's still
>>>descrimination in what supposed to be a free country with no
>>>descrimination. They also wonder why the number of hams are dropping
>>
>>off.
>>
>>>My thoughts are that young folks would rather use a computer for their
>>>communication than go through the license requirements, especially morse
>>>code. Quash morse code, and the youth will seek their licenses. However,
>>>we still have the hard liners, or the "hollier than thows" (that think
>>>they're better than others!), who make the rulings and protest against
>>>stopping the code requirements. If it's left up to them, my opinion is
>>
>>the
>>
>>>hobby will go right down the toilet....
>>>
>>>Sincerely,
>>>
>>>Will
>>>
>>>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>>>
>>>On 8/31/05 at 11:07 AM Theo Bellamy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Haven't you heard? 20 wpm Extras can now run 6kw. It is only fair since 5
>>>>wpm Extras can run 1.5 kw ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Theo K4MO
>>>>
>>>>;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com]On
>>>>Behalf Of Don Havlicek
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:51 AM
>>>>To: PA3DUV
>>>>Cc: amps@contesting.com; Harold B Mandel
>>>>Subject: Re: [Amps] Palstar DL5K 5KW load
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>6 Kw output?
>>>>Hmmmmmmm
>>>>Wish we had that opportunity in the USA, but who needs 6 db?
>>>>Don
>>>>N8DE
>>>>
>>>>PA3DUV wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>However, there are some minor flaws in the design of the DL5K.
>>>>>
>>>>>First the long silver plated wire from the UHF connector to the
>>>>>resistors
>>>>
>>>>is
>>>>
>>>>>hanging on the solder joint of the UHF connector. The cheap rubber
>>>>
>>>>grommet
>>>>
>>>>>in the directional coupler box provides no support at all. I have
>>>>
>>>>machined
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>>teflon support bushing to replace the grommet which supports this long
>>>>
>>>>lead.
>>>>
>>>>>Also I have bolted the directional coupler box to the chassis in order
>>>>>to
>>>>>remove strain from the broken solder connection to the UHF plug.
>>>>>
>>>>>The DL5K works just fine with the 6 kW output from my 2 x GU84
>>>>>amplifier.
>>>>>The fan kicks in after approx. 20 seconds and a nice flow of hot air
>>>>
>>>>heats
>>>>
>>>>>my shack in the wintertime. Together with the air flow through the GU
>>>>
>>84
>>
>>>>>plate coolers I do not need to fire up the wood burner in the shack.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers, Dick
>>>>>PA3DUV
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Harold B. Mandel" <ka1xo@juno.com>
>>>>>To: <amps@contesting.com>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 12:21 AM
>>>>>Subject: [Amps] Palstar DL5K 5KW load
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>When opening up the Palstar DL5K dummy load
>>>>>>the owner can spot a ceramic capacitor at one end of
>>>>>>the two load resistors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As well, the input line goes through a metal box that serves as
>>>>>>the pickup for the relative wattmeter on the front panel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>While never approaching the 5KW limit I have seen some
>>>>>>reflected energy from this device at the legal limit area and
>>>>>>wonder if any of you might have encountered this as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I went so far as to swap coax jumpers, etc., to eliminate
>>>>>>cable glitches and the effect followed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hal Mandel/W4HBM
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