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Re: [Amps] ARD-230A

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Subject: Re: [Amps] ARD-230A
From: R.Measures <r@somis.org>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 08:46:14 -0700
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On Aug 12, 2005, at 7:07 AM, Will Matney wrote:

> Rich,
>
> Of course the higher ups wont admit to that and make a change in a 
> product all ready released. As soon as the customers who already own 
> one found out about the change, they would all want theirs modified 
> and fixed for free. Same as a recall on a car.

Good point, Will, Ford's 12-year delay in fixing the transistor 
heat-related failure problem in their gas-engine ignition unit cost 
Ford stockholders over $2-Billion and eventually cost Ford's way 
overpaid CEO his job..

> The car companies wont admit to nothing either until it gets so bad 
> with so many complaints by insurance companies, customers, and the 
> government, they make a recall. If it's so bad, they merely kill the 
> model, and don't make it anymore with no explanations, but they wasn't 
> selling good. That goes on everywhere today and leaves the ones who 
> bought the products hung out to dry.

Toyota and Honda were among the first Japanese companies to take Dr. W. 
Edward Deming's advice seriously and get the bugs out of a vehicle 
before it was sold to the public.   This was a revolutionary change for 
the Japanese since is was a drastic change from the tradition of 
"ringeshow", a Jananese word meaning that only the dai ichi (#1) 
manager of a company can make even a neededchange in the design of a 
product.

cheers
>
> Best,
>
> Will
>
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> On 8/12/05 at 6:50 AM R.Measures wrote:
>
>> On Aug 12, 2005, at 4:48 AM, Fortra wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Amperes,
>>>
>>> I am in process to make a difficult decision, whether to buy an
>>> Advanced Radio Devices Amplifier ARD-230A. The amp is in apparently
>>> good conditions, with quality parts, and operational. Does anyone of
>>> you have had any experience with it??
>>
>> I used to discuss, via mail and telephone, the ARD 230A  with the
>> factory technician who repaired them.  He told me that some of units
>> that came back under warranty for repair appeared to have been damaged
>> by intermittent VHF or possibly UHF parasitic oscillations, which
>> should probably not be surprising since the 3cx800A7 is rated for full
>> input in "Amplifier and Oscillator Service" up to 500MHz.  After he
>> read my articles in *QST* discussing parasites, he became more
>> convinced that he was on the right track and he contacted me.  He
>> subsequently informed the owner and designer of the repeated signs of
>> such damage he was seeing and suggested that they try decreasing the Q
>> of the VHF suppressors in order to decrease VHF and UHF gain.  The
>> suggestion was rejected, the problems continued, and within a year ARD
>> went under.  I still have the set of ARD 230A drawings he sent me
>> during the discussions, so if you would like to have them I will mail
>> them to you.
>>
>>> Judging from Google search, most of the problems were with software
>>> (run by Z-80 processor).
>>
>> - - - Editorial opinion -- As I see it, unless the equipment is to be
>> operated by a moderately retarded chimpanzee, trying to control a RF
>> power amplifier with a microprocessor makes about as much sense as
>> trying to control a lawnmower with one.
>>
>>> Amp has otherwise quality parts as Alpha not to get into great
>>> detail.But as it is fully remote, should I give in into it....Your
>>> advices please!
>>>
>>> p.s.It has pair of 3cx800a7
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>>
>> Richard L. Measures, AG6K, 805.386.3734.  www.somis.org
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