There has been some discussion on most electronic related newsgroups and
mailing lists including (I think) here about Agilent's position on
people putting HP manuals on the web.
I'm now listed on the Agilent website as someone who can supply manuals
(one of only 14, so I suspect most on eBay selling CDs are doing it
illegally).
http://www.home.agilent.com/cgi-bin/pub/agilent/library/cp_LibraryFAQDetail.jsp?NAV_ID=-11145.0.03&LANGUAGE_CODE=eng&OID=536932189&ID=1000002849%3aepsg%3afaq&COUNTRY_CODE=US
This permission now *includes* distribution by the web, whereas
permission I got before that, excluded the web.
I've only got the one (HP 5370B), which I make available for free. I
have no intension of making my living by selling them, although someone
was so pleased to get that manual, he insisted on sending me a bottle of
very nice wine, which managed to make it from Switzerland to England in
one piece.
But I thought I'd just clarify the situation, as I know it was about 2
months ago (i.e. after Agilent asked sites, including BAMA to remove the
manuals).
If you want to make manuals available by paper, CD, DVD or the web for
"unsupported" HP or Agilent products, you can do so. But you need to get
a license to do it legally. (Note, discontinued does not necessarily
mean unsupported).
Getting that license involves no more than asking Agilent, they send you
a letter by pdf file to sign, you send it back and are given permission.
There is no charge for this, but you can charge for the manuals if you
want.
Whilst the permission I have does not state application notes are
included, I asked about these and was told this was OK in a digitally
signed email. I might put a couple of HP application notes I have on
step recovery diodes at some point, as I sometimes get asked for them.
It's a shame these application notes can't be found easily now.
I will not post the email address of who to contact in Agilent. But her
name is Libby. If you drop me an email, I'll sort out her email address,
but it will not be for a couple of weeks, since I did all this from
work, not from home, and can't easily access the contents of my eamil
there.
LOANING AGILENT MANUALS
This appeared on a mailing list I subscribe to. Dave Cunningham at
Agilent is wanting HP manuals to scan and put on the web. A list of the
manuals wanted is at
http://www.speakeasy.org/~jmiles1/ke5fx/manuals_needed.htm
If you have a manual in PDF format, or paper format and are willing to
loan it to Agilent, then let Dave know - dcunningham (at) agilent.com. I
don't know how up to date that list is. Others have said all manuals are
in Agilent, but with a huge company like that, nobody can know what is
happening at all other sites. But I am sure if someone has done a decent
job of scanning a manual and converting to pdf, Agilent would rather not
repeat the process.
David Kirkby, G8WRB.
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From: hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dave
Cunningham
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:58 PM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] I'm Ready for Your Manuals!
Hi, friends. I've gotten a thumbs-up from Thomas, the group
founder, to begin my manual search here. With the enthusiasm you've
shown me, there's no time like the present....
This is my initial request for your help in sharing manuals. Here's
how you can help, and what you can expect from me:
* I've posted a file containing the top 500 products I'd like to
find manuals on. You'll find the file in the Files area of the
group.
* I'm like you - limited time and limited resources. I'm most
interested in the top 200 products at first, and PDF files are my
favorite!
* If you have a manual or a file, and you'd like to share it:
--Files: either email them to me at
dcunningham (at) agilent.com
or tell me how I can find and download the file.
--Hardcopy Manuals: Email me with details on what you have.
What will I do? I will review every file and email, and will
determine whether we can use the manual. I'm doing similar things
within Agilent (yes, we have manuals we've forgotten about lying
around!), so it's possible I'll already have a copy available. If
what you have is not on this first list, I'd still be excited to
look at it; resource constraints may force me to put off loading it
onto our site until later than the higher-priority products.
I don't have the scanning process complete yet, and I'm also working
to line up resources to load whatever materials we're sent. That
means I can't promise to load things immediately. I will commit to
responding to each submitter individually, and I will keep the group
aware of the products we're adding. I will eventually have a place
on the Agilent website to continue tracking what we've done.
Thanks for embarking on this experiment with me. I'm not certain
where this will lead us, but I sure enjoy the support and
encouragement you've provided. So...send those manuals, continue
commenting in the group, and I'll make sure to keep you all updated
on what's happening.
Thanks a ton!
Dave dcunningham (at) agilent.com
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David Kirkby,
G8WRB
Please check out http://www.g8wrb.org/
of if you live in Essex http://www.southminster-branch-line.org.uk/
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