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Re: [Amps] Heater chokes on 1/2" ferrite

To: "Thomas Hoeppe" <thomas.hoeppe@asamnet.de>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Heater chokes on 1/2" ferrite
From: R.Measures <r@somis.org>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:23:53 -0700
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On Sep 15, 2004, at 10:31 AM, Thomas Hoeppe wrote:


Hello OM's,

in most of the american handbooks they recommend a bifilar choke on a 1/2" ferrite rod, when the tube's cathode is in direct contact with one side of the filament or even directly heated. (3-500Z...) The 8877, of course, has no need for such a choke.

/Thomas -- Unless the one side of a 8877/GS-35b/3cx800A7 heater is connected to the cathode, it is possible for a glitch to create an arc between the cathode and the heater. Sometimes this arc will open the heater. Thus, the safest course is to wire one side of the heater to the cathode and use a bifilar choke to RF-isolate the heater/cathode from the heater transformer. In this case, both sides of the heater transformer secondary must float above circuit common.


Did anyone check the inductance?

Roughly 10uH minimum is required for 1.8MHz operation. (XL=120-ohms) The +j120-ohms can be cancelled by adding c. 900pF to C2 of the tuned input for 160m.


What is the permeablility of that ferrite material?

Typically 125

I want to use a square rod with permeability of about 1000.

This should work well below 1MHz.


cheers

It is a U/I shaped material. With 17 bifilar windings on the bottom of the U, I got 24 uH, and when I close it by using the "I" I measure 230 uH. This is much more then needed on that point. Should I expect problems? The input of the tube is around 50 Ohms (GS35b).

I have already built a linear, which shows less gain on 160m then on 80m. I am afraid some input power on 160 is lost in that choke. Unfortunately I did not check the choke when I made that amp years ago.
Now, I want to avoid that problem in a new desktop project.


Thanks for your comments....Tom, DJ5RE

Richard L. Measures, AG6K, 805.386.3734. www.somis.org


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